Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106394 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11471 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2019 19:56:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ot1-f46.google.com) (209.85.210.46) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2019 19:56:36 -0000 Received: by mail-ot1-f46.google.com with SMTP id l15so94417236otn.9 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 10:23:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=e6BkhfAlZ/KFTUMH5BKlcYd3NpH2+B78ck9rOUifuW0=; b=swrSMqWLJTCzMozLbp3UDbY3l11VjFt8FMsZgd71S9b5aN9eF4e3A1IZ1pOkeJi3/Q J2jPHZ79DAHF8QmAalffxz7PY5xL/j19sLd0ubv6NVTHLszYhNYgdcnox3b1L4HBl+Qa 3DEjnTMBIyTGkP1cS+DxEWJZs8iAcwY3VrOmj0nEx08rUMttWPefyGtAvDrT51ertsBb Q4qfhjXltulFrBcMV+ODHZt6sJ672KJAWZHHcpmaEtRr9NKm6plsHglhSbj38JiRG1pp 7+HumrSVlC2CH9qU2omd81ab0Q740ezzep76W8woI3l9jpYamJ6WK7qSQ3LD3x2nIbfc zjvw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=e6BkhfAlZ/KFTUMH5BKlcYd3NpH2+B78ck9rOUifuW0=; b=nsPdj5ZjzyUYr+bmCUPvvEyk7LAda0aNdpRccJgGHYvnOjED7BUVXxY81b7v2fhb1+ hnUmHy4udUqmD5tKGpuFhylUhu0odxZ8W2rYDb2r3lh7CGyJV5gmStISg65/mE4qpRcc 3Ovc1WfmdykAtoBWPk/Cy8lOoGGlfWQo5ZJgsY5WimlXqUzcEzWP4+eKUYd9Y483oHSl B94AV/mLqwNwhvltNZ5+KSC76xVMCbRAWYRvRWgG9KjXUdyJuVAbEqX0ckmPl4MURMbK 85/2EIIm0SC8+C+inNOEqS0ExWEOVIjVqhKTVZ1zn+5Ij8zJjgZXj/AxbWPQOEHS6wz6 TiEQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWsfkRqnAFJkRF+ZpRQ7+RJ96eBCm7WNnBI75hNg6T8in7mI4zW r3989NcEwgSKjYUMfrRSrz0Ie4XuCYBggvDE7eg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzEiZ79hYBNPle/7OiHkdg9Bq0R5SenPXAVs3QFwVJ+gbv9NHs5v6AdzyGfCCYi/tVq5lFrAnvobTBi2j2PxhE= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:a76:: with SMTP id 109mr3763311otg.252.1565112197438; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 10:23:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 19:23:06 +0200 Message-ID: To: "G. P. B." Cc: Rowan Collins , Chase Peeler , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags, again From: peterkokot@gmail.com (Peter Kokot) Hello, On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 19:19, G. P. B. wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 19:12, Rowan Collins wrote: > > > On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 17:59, Chase Peeler wrote: > > > > > I'm not a voter, but, I have a question. If this fails, does that mean > > the > > > original RFC that passed is still in effect? > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is really ambiguous, and risks the situation being even more > > confusing than it was before. > > > > The "No" column on this RFC already includes people who voted "Yes" on the > > previous version; is this an indication that they have changed their mind > > about removing short tags, or that they prefer the original proposal? > > > > I think we urgently need to clarify this, and may need to reset the vote > > with one or more clearer questions. > > > > Regards, > > -- > > Rowan Collins > > [IMSoP] > > > This RFC supersedes the previous one as stated in the the RFC itself : " > This RFC supersedes the previous one and proposes a different deprecation > approach." meaning that the previous one is void. > I don't know why this is ambiguous and needs to be said once again. > > Best regards > > George P. Banyard Thank you for clarification. From what I understand it is the case where "no" means a status quo and no agreements has been reached on the original RFC. Since the original RFC has been vetoed and so much energy was invested from Zeev and some others commentators then I guess the RFCs fail and we will have two types of opening tags in PHP for ever. Otherwise, as described, yes. -- Peter Kokot