Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106388 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69362 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2019 15:52:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-oi1-f180.google.com) (209.85.167.180) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2019 15:52:50 -0000 Received: by mail-oi1-f180.google.com with SMTP id v186so66491044oie.5 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 06:19:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9b58hV8EueJnb21ntodV0bxeQKhJD7BIjXDtY1JgyYc=; b=FLH5uLndVmWpmLMGkMasy0njWSqGavuv/9qbaCCGcju+F6UXtY5lcHyjs/vY/z/es+ DXhBRMgWoabqbqPSLHKHhXB3+e76KLzhCyNGMcTYOYcPk7lhgj1SyBdHyMaUjhJh2IzG msJ+ROoR9CHo2tcV1CuF4WnIvshK3tU5LbzdiV5iyM9ZO5DlDAxXUCKryAVeGQhc1Lko HXnD0p889h1s8PiiCPnLpWU7UTE95jmuG0LWgWklqmcYBPTH+ICKEQH4nVjCk082AsI7 Ci3nUMdgmUGQQF0v0l2NKyFEwPdFTgAcu8k2LKwLB0wk9QlgEYUwlfTE1hPPqhT/YfxR b8Rg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=9b58hV8EueJnb21ntodV0bxeQKhJD7BIjXDtY1JgyYc=; b=LracSiwNFoEQtKg4TFvFR4T7kd6tnVY5K2Fr2JxX9P3SNNI3dt1JY3dpEYfZxD1T/X axLkt7ihepF92uvYaF8mqtjH8BTyJUy7hGvwZomdmTDjw58YqAxFEk0WCTP22ZS/k1Pf DAhMDvUV+Q6/B/ZlfRKkC1tL30ypCJq2rX3AwdNx4E0IUVwGd4ueVZbyBHx6nGyrN8ZI vRD/13tItT8aR97lXAwai2vNl6qw0vhbkDtgLyv5J9qZ5sieMf+GOoRvlV2VJohbswKM QvFLEeWTGbk6LftEaGxGR74Oyw481DjINmRlj4KEwBRE08au7/wIym4OYFQ6syMqqRz0 UA3g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWz2vcfMbJHeO3jcTDnhwUNTQ1krc9+HpYUcdcMt1YVnYKvPgao hVtOGW/k0q2uZ5sl2akwXaRftHP543bjs0AJLdou7g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxumPbh9TmWnv1oP+IWFbCNIn2RO69S++n/z0wV9YuELQQdbPzGrBiKIWQuGnKLryqscrmQIDXdd3e+AEQuTUY= X-Received: by 2002:a02:ab99:: with SMTP id t25mr4025549jan.113.1565097569372; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 06:19:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9A71CBB7-8F0B-40E4-B90E-60108FA52D7D@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 14:19:18 +0100 Message-ID: To: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a94e61058f72ac37" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Improve visibility of RFC negative feedback From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) --000000000000a94e61058f72ac37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 13:54, Lynn wrote: > Taking the current RFC ( > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/counterargument/deprecate_php_short_tags) as > example, how do we as reader differentiate between people's counter > arguments? When I read those points, I feel like this is something agreed > upon by the group as a whole, rather than a person and I know that not > everyone might these points as (valid) counter arguments or have different > opinions about each. > > My proposal is to add a name to either a section or argument itself, or > perhaps each person could create a page with their counter arguments, > meaning the current page becomes an index. This makes it very clear to see > who provides which arguments. > Firstly, I would somewhat question why you need to know who holds an opinion. RFCs, and any dissenting opinions, are not manifestoes in elections, they are information presented so that you can form your own opinion. They should not be read as representative of "the group as a whole", but nor should the author be particularly important in most cases. That said, the current RFC template has an "author" field in the header, and Dan already proposed a convention of contributors "signing" dissenting opinions they agree with. The example you link to says "Author: Zeev Suraski", so I'm not sure what change you're proposing. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP] --000000000000a94e61058f72ac37--