Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106379 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2242 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2019 21:20:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tbjjbihbhebb.turbo-smtp.net) (199.187.174.11) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2019 21:20:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=php.net; s=turbo-smtp; x=1565635629; h=DomainKey-Signature:Received: Received:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date: Message-ID:Subject:To:Cc:Content-Type; bh=sf8qxs21o0JPxnx57WW7jf JW56gPR6ZTKmfGmD4MAjc=; b=GuMVyapzRyDsVEtj4aB6q4yjS47fvXm8jo0H4q elA5NTOJYiuRXdRRwqdoxBz+g/EUHQUeOSh65CmUGJ+BY3rPptqTIlcaN6WKtOj2 9LuswjxQIaoENnvWfpibmBMbuffo1v88fbE9L12ML2H1nbFq030H7rdTu84KtuTe 1OD3c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=turbo-smtp; d=php.net; h=Received:Received:X-TurboSMTP-Tracking:X-Gm-Message-State:X-Google-Smtp-Source:X-Received:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:X-Gmail-Original-Message-Id:Message-ID:Subject:To:Cc:Content-Type; b=Ag+pj8J6KvfHSdHQTZ3FQ42yjOhEqafgekfQUhDMU3ZCqWSIT6zKNQQjB0Dv+H 6Zyj1mfmKYahictx/yD4zfypEuqPYNgFNJnZjaGYTrwIP5xN6I3kB6fbZyfzPy56 Z/XGEcAaNENM99GWf9+PHdW7fU/sTA/YdzeudLmeg2rGg=; Received: (qmail 21119 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2019 18:47:09 -0000 Received: X-TurboSMTP-Tracking: 5205180082 X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV8cpf3IQssbC9fbjQ21rToxCk2gjz9juZsEKq6QjtOYyN5tmjH bWF4IVRamvsGncT/8DA2kEa72WJCtr0qGFDRsqQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzgtiyf21YMrbrnOtn5A7kGJDc2JwyFONukPESw4m8Ff3OqrMmydIbfY0GNy+34HMerkaEEukrR77IYvq0GlAY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:124f:: with SMTP id a15mr104548892qkl.173.1565030828822; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 11:47:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 21:46:57 +0300 X-Gmail-Original-Message-Id: Message-ID: To: "G. P. B." Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009d635f058f6322dd" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2 From: zeev@php.net (Zeev Suraski) --0000000000009d635f058f6322dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" As we head closer to the vote - and in light of what I said towards the end of my message in https://externals.io/message/106256#106278, as well as the points Dan articulated regarding the current issue of negative feedback not getting the same level of visibility as the RFC itself - I'd like to figure out a temp solution until we amend our rules. George - are you OK with having a section that illustrates the issues that me and some others have brought up with this deprecation in the RFC itself? Or add a link to a separate page, along the lines of what Dan proposed? Thanks, Zeev On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 8:55 PM G. P. B. wrote: > Hello internals, > > Due to the controversy after the initial vote on the Deprecate PHP's Short > Open Tag RFC [1] here is a new RFC to deprecate them written with the help > of Nikita Popov . > > This RFC is targeting PHP 7.4 and has an exemption to land after the > feature freeze granted by the Release Managers of PHP 7.4 Derick Rethans < > derick@php.net> and Peter Kokot , CCed to this email. > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate_php_short_tags_v2 > > Discussion is expected to last 2 weeks followed by a 2 week vote such that > this RFC may land in PHP7.4Beta3 as per the timeline. [2] > > The only point of contention of this RFC that I potentially see is the > removal in PHP 8.1 after short open tags being a Parse Error in PHP 8.0 > instead of it being removed in PHP 9 after it having had a whole major > version release cycle. > > Best regards > > George P. Banyard > > [1] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate_php_short_tags > [2] https://wiki.php.net/todo/php74 > --0000000000009d635f058f6322dd--