Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106369 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16388 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2019 16:44:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-io1-f51.google.com) (209.85.166.51) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2019 16:44:29 -0000 Received: by mail-io1-f51.google.com with SMTP id z3so17662996iog.0 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 07:09:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=3X0NO+vMc7p9jibw89Vj2Ro7B4d87P7XhzXGPQ9j71E=; b=FYK4QgLwpRVzlrpbzjakkBCK+0y/P1Oc7GunXGXWlAeW6xAPX26COK4P7xJU+mIlIR YUTriwhANwAAYvvjLQDUrkWSNPpAZ+igr6WJW7IanESHOFKSP0JLg2CFSyjLz6j5NpTJ unr+j4YBjSOmCV/+Z2lryCevOqyFw8DXuKgNLKLR123Dk33ZbypGAaP+5w9KeR5pniYw ddlT4Tje8UAnyG0y2aY5uNlHzKcoJ1Mx+LBnNT4VoQkwOf6QbH4aHV50yumzMR2irk12 j944A7uIEsMeQi2FYrodefed1H5maUYc+xyP9MwDmIINygGVTU8lzUjN2txv/nQx2Kx/ /uHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3X0NO+vMc7p9jibw89Vj2Ro7B4d87P7XhzXGPQ9j71E=; b=fOoT1ViACqi6voZaFMTAhhgZWQOy7L0w4lrE44cwm1lsKNd3TxA97azCsJ07s5QfLt u8U4i/F8OSqFyDUTRg5h58eXcf3pFNhjSFJ0enxk07dcF3mcIzSLtK9fyO5XQX6DEXAJ 0+XqyczWDlkQuURZrz8exiDyS+wFRrdqdZtKNbfC7FFJESjSZKVxo5frO4gXhZnIXIF6 mC3fDMvRs6+UrKkDefmnm4m+h3y7VMhN8zWXw9cnRtwJKTj0UFp2gec3haVZYM5iVhI0 2Mnp61C4lqBZ96AmwH4qpjN+4uKwI/5hj1ob58mDc6k5rIzIbnrAODm9FmQT5NuKc3yZ kHzA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX77vMifisxwybY8VFC0HUJhYzkDA0CduvcPQJ2ZzmrWl9NJIxN kAV0pSx8sRSFmJjFhKd3vmSANz7BwBXUwmKqt78= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy74yh1N0PnLnWgx3ArC2TN+cbpHv0XQstqN9bKPV4AyqF0BrlUOCw+R/HL9ZI6rLgav+JSvZ045IywrTV1oc0= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:924e:: with SMTP id e14mr103137928iol.215.1564582178339; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 07:09:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9aba78c9-f04d-45b8-6c34-ad1c2472ef76@gmail.com> <75d04139-b944-f204-f988-959fa6f3e305@gmail.com> <8CD3B476-ABF9-4DB7-96D3-217064023854@gmail.com> <98616527-805f-3425-d292-1363be26730d@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 10:09:14 -0400 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Dan Ackroyd , Bob Weinand , internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Explicit call-site send-by-ref syntax From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("guilhermeblanco@gmail.com") threat /THret/ noun: a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done. Anyway, can we vote on this RFC? On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:54 AM Zeev Suraski wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 4:31 PM Dan Ackroyd wrote: > > > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 09:50, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > > > This was not a threat of any kind, > > > > "If we need to pull rank with group@ here, we will." > > > > "I'm confident that if it ever came to that, I'll have the backing of > > group@, which is why I wrote what I wrote." > > > > Those are threats. > > > > No Dan, they are not. You're remarkably offensive for claiming that - not > only based on your own initial misinterpretation, but also after I took the > time to explain[1]. Perhaps it has to do with a very bogus definition for > the word 'threat', by which one could consider every RFC as a threat as > well. It was a clear call to order. If you want to call it a threat, or > Coolio, or some other word - that is entirely up to you, but it does not > change the fact that it wasn't a threat. > > Zeev > > > [1] "This was not a threat of any kind, and framing it as such is > inappropriate by itself. I wasn't "threatening" to have anyone kicked or > otherwise penalized. It was a reminder of one of the ground rules - > respectful discussion and focusing on the ideas and not the people they > came from - and making it clear I have no intention to yield on it. I said > that if for some reason what has been and should continue to be obvious - > just as much as the discussions here have to be respectful (and in English) > - is no longer obvious - we'll make it clear. That's all." -- Guilherme Blanco SVP Technology at Statflo Inc. Mobile: +1 647 232 5599