Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106368 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11755 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2019 16:29:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tbjjbihbhebb.turbo-smtp.net) (199.187.174.11) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2019 16:29:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=php.net; s=turbo-smtp; x=1565186080; h=DomainKey-Signature:Received: Received:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date: Message-ID:Subject:To:Cc:Content-Type; bh=qiBMfNIP1/2+Hz7dQ/sMSb GtXhY8Rj1tH8P7vx0m68E=; b=FLiqLAclxHU8ieIX98c4Ii5WWVW6p68iDo+UTb wsZcMI81a7LuNC3YTm8Z7iIvUGb17Seaqmt3Ynd1XbXH8GwKKUkkA+KKvYs4/XLV NF8yeLlBkFNPfYtZZwGQi7KtAXjH23ZMbwnuyx2JNpKUBwgipvdcNE2uc3hMzw2d 22RMM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=turbo-smtp; d=php.net; h=Received:Received:X-TurboSMTP-Tracking:X-Gm-Message-State:X-Google-Smtp-Source:X-Received:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:X-Gmail-Original-Message-Id:Message-ID:Subject:To:Cc:Content-Type; b=ECZw0+y47UNFJDTTNyEMukNyjQiv6qdpgjaXtD5zcF2HwAfv9QtsHHr3Sn+0Ty d06gum7cPhJn4Y4X5uXue5CuZy6vLjKMU3TCIpDMh74Ctt48RHliP7wqRLKGt4z9 BuuxhyYMWkjiAbtPmcFS19cGDqt/X43GJvE/bsoI6+2fg=; Received: (qmail 2722 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2019 13:54:40 -0000 Received: X-TurboSMTP-Tracking: 5195719145 X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUw3Y5Ts/GVrBP0g4YAbIGAWooZw2YIXkWwlnSa0MFlF0gbaQqw KzN6dI/tSfB2Ah8ePQMtFpE/lvvwHTVy5FXtXQg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwDL0VWVaUk0u8lkFNCltmKYsOrCtmC9pYA0XL5eDiWzV1Z6TqRDF27/idESeBEhaIsYXiDzUtdtwrdAaFg3GY= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:b148:: with SMTP id r8mr85851771qvc.240.1564581279607; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 06:54:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 1PR0902MB2154.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 16:54:28 +0300 X-Gmail-Original-Message-Id: Message-ID: To: Dan Ackroyd Cc: Bob Weinand , internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000064b193058efa777d" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Explicit call-site send-by-ref syntax From: zeev@php.net (Zeev Suraski) --00000000000064b193058efa777d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 4:31 PM Dan Ackroyd wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 09:50, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > This was not a threat of any kind, > > "If we need to pull rank with group@ here, we will." > > "I'm confident that if it ever came to that, I'll have the backing of > group@, which is why I wrote what I wrote." > > Those are threats. > No Dan, they are not. You're remarkably offensive for claiming that - not only based on your own initial misinterpretation, but also after I took the time to explain[1]. Perhaps it has to do with a very bogus definition for the word 'threat', by which one could consider every RFC as a threat as well. It was a clear call to order. If you want to call it a threat, or Coolio, or some other word - that is entirely up to you, but it does not change the fact that it wasn't a threat. Zeev [1] "This was not a threat of any kind, and framing it as such is inappropriate by itself. I wasn't "threatening" to have anyone kicked or otherwise penalized. It was a reminder of one of the ground rules - respectful discussion and focusing on the ideas and not the people they came from - and making it clear I have no intention to yield on it. I said that if for some reason what has been and should continue to be obvious - just as much as the discussions here have to be respectful (and in English) - is no longer obvious - we'll make it clear. That's all." --00000000000064b193058efa777d--