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To: Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Explicit call-site send-by-ref syntax
From: claude.pache@gmail.com (Claude Pache)



> Le 28 juil. 2019 =C3=A0 21:12, Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com> a =
=C3=A9crit :
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> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 9:06 PM Stanislav Malyshev =
<smalyshev@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> Hi!
>>=20
>>> Nah, by-ref is pretty much avoided in OSS packages, but we can =
surely
>>> survey the ecosystem to verify this.
>>=20
>> I literally work with code that uses references every day. So may be =
you
>> haven't encountered it but the attitude of "nah, never happens" I =
think
>> is a bit misplaced.
>> Also please remember not all PHP code is latest composer packages. In
>> fact, most of it isn't.
>>=20
>=20
> I do work with code like that: the teams maintaining these codebases =
are
> actively removing by-ref calls when they encounter them.
>=20
> Marco Pivetta

Do your teams actively remove direct calls to array_push() and =
array_multisort()? In any case, I=E2=80=99m sure that most PHP =
developers don=E2=80=99t.

=E2=80=94Claude=