Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106284 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 44103 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2019 16:51:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mout.gmx.net) (212.227.17.22) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2019 16:51:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1563977709; bh=CzYNz3Xf2L2Z8FqvJHBvlvMtHftUVZf6Igz3u9+JWuU=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=bUbEOlVF5jtlYwx3Dz54hNpPf941pfIYiSLB+riR5GDgBIN24Q9Fk6ql1rXkAvQ3C 17VYxoHQQRgQWszOmjNRJpcPa6vZdUPz/kSX0/4qRszphP7iGbxxROPEMeEJKsjd5/ ThqTTr6jUDue1CKKbraCHyVBjgiGlPCG1aXvze5Y= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.2.144] ([84.179.231.50]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MrhUK-1iDVJA40Bg-00nl4X; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:15:09 +0200 To: "G. P. B." , PHP internals Cc: Stanislav Malyshev , Zeev Suraski References: <28a9ccf7-f5be-eb1e-999a-06170beeed4b@gmail.com> <5d37a85f.1c69fb81.9e2eb.29d0SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <182e4bf7-05f0-5dec-0e4d-4071cb1249a8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bba4dd8-bcbd-efe4-f5f2-08ed51492698@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:15:08 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:jJEtFlLJkSbPRFMXzJ/O/0ObxBUtiRvOJY6wbSrxL9rNPX+jspq 0VfrCdUr7XnUeMZnY6djp/51CVJl9zpH6mfdU/dLfpLCXiba2dXN73y4jm+I6R8WOZ/Ey7V jwjD1l2mju5fHarPxPWXqi4ROgTNAq2aPBvhB/Sej7Jmm+Uk62wpKE0SH9QPkMERQ1Ly0GH W0O3eIft5qUFgvfp8eiyw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ZaQPIKwbpMk=:vgSQxqKBSBNiizwoWNppV8 gStbwGDA0+iWm926bkahGzV2rZVhSvVTL9TkyZ1vNNTZXpVLFtj/RJhFfHz9t3th+X4TCYmYg sTNwpFQuVz6TQSCEa3z2XAwN3dmA1gaKwlJYEEZTpIS/Nfw363lRgUO70cMTBgiELzXSVLWNL R1010ooe08Oyh0/exgWJANps1CNl32YENeE8ZR2qhiMzZ3CBQKgDxsY8S4np6wxIqGdvxGYeT z+uYQUfPLEpHQ2dOA0uyIqRkaPaK2evQgrjHNUu7Mx/hJapO/0/kqjO9fnbmYnrMscDFsmNfY KZpjafYXOr3vopcGsJw7XBL0laXqPCuNSWpfWsnx4fgaPT+mIg5HaOUel6J2sBIWvBKbZxgcL yWSkw9PrASa7+H8ldkedr+nmW23BhgisSdLB8iS8KyKSEmRlGgl7n68j5bHhY5OvEXCFMrucQ V0LOoTSDqzILw4Hyh2cQ3+S+EtAF1Dk7+XIDv8S9RWIpG99VqUazagsh7o2N6+pjGbexpTaqU VwW+VPlB1bsdlcWZdoqBufWcagBpLzPYOI6BtRrQ7y0jQJKDi54nE2myVtqPPygDK/MH6Xk4m 6V57dhg+CA10JEWM20/I8kjc07n2x3btDLLBkqpF2gkozkDpttXXfjAib2WMXvbFXMYeACB2L XVAlcRjtk4n8QofifSoUZE9aXEUvffOzF9yNl5IRBnXpyp4Gvf7Pks8DqgemOeCCpZ8c5guof /4r6E/0D2LR5UxBb9mtjCGDw9ISwM1PbyrEEKTeUUwbR4RYxoKNtZUWia+4EDq/FdBglFxDfK dTRPnU1yGSdAgr1gI8LPEUASvV4DYTzXEnPCu6OUe3Py0JCxlZ4GhmmRczR2nrxQ6dH0qe8HO +5mOwPzEv4e1QtPMX+d+mD/PI8Xtf8eMVb9H8c5huEkp7gO2TEqIsWZGImUZ3ZSpWl8qB20KC rwu/wTIzREQwV1RvE/7rmYQ9E4qiVcNTlfY6SWHGfpQdvJtQk+zlBkbh0NfKL0xyblBSGvVGR 9GC4dpT+S9k4JsR5uNX2qy+01ZPgXHNX5Nw+ueqnFs7A0tR0fVz2eZOxTYL1A6G0MokkLqNOS YtvYRv7BaLGRgIf9jMgPHXeYsdoCEb9M3NA Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2 From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 24.07.2019 at 15:27, G. P. B. wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 05:51, wrote: > >> - [Short tags] You need to purposely turn it on in your own deployment= - >> people and companies who use it use it exclusively for internal purpose= s. > > This is just plain wrong since PHP 5.4 as it is enabled by default and y= ou > need to actively turn it OFF as which can be seen on https://3v4l.org [1= ] > as it doesn't use any INI configuration files. Now as stated in the RFC: > >> Currently the > ini setting. This ini setting is *enabled* by default (if no ini files i= s >> used), > > but *disabled* in both php.ini-development and php.ini-production. > > > which is probably why most of us - and most users - think that it needs = to > be implicitly enabled. Maybe the configuration option --(en|dis)able-short-tags adds to this confusion. Thanks, Christoph