Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106263 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13997 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2019 23:33:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-lf1-f51.google.com) (209.85.167.51) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2019 23:33:06 -0000 Received: by mail-lf1-f51.google.com with SMTP id x3so30425332lfc.0 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:56:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8B7M7dzGnEIAzXYT2m7VM3RxWaAMNKuV8KVJp3/fuy0=; b=CNX+kDSGXQf3MARXeLWOpOmlqRTEL6NkvIPAyM0SX9wVQTG/Nikz/IK935HaBawEOQ Md29gJi9Msuor8dsYKW6OBeickxfoiZGTxcOwX2l4EJ4kYMOJXBaIAc7Ppsj5F278PML pYirYziEPLQy4/VYkd/zlOd6AajIYtmJYuOu81ViqSl6ZEPkprHrTi6c/24WC7qHB+qh S1ss3XoN4P856DvlVv6dzGORjH5wg5Tc4WhNHE8DZ3VAj/HCxARgVV2uXBHZi91awHa9 wLlIFh9Sc1IdMyTqmOkgmEr4noSaGH1+UP9YHr/El+ypA+qlXlWzxnacAC5TEm93QMHO HBDQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8B7M7dzGnEIAzXYT2m7VM3RxWaAMNKuV8KVJp3/fuy0=; b=MlKzSQEqzYhtZvmRzTd9HzZv7fA95FIysc06MVVnRLBxhwFC+j1gWgMuLIX0P3XWxw ZJ+9PSbVZGbL/BQJXG2CoQT9Gg7KneAXyMNjSTYen9ZHBeV1Sq/xTELtaKl1cTf+X2QZ aFWDDsTROYi2Y/FqDEacBdrTz9uYSzjWeDtQDOgefw0E7+HhJIOfCZ/LvjHdJxDQ1npr WnsDsecFmNCetC4zjLkwdt50gxhfe8Z4RYityipJZYhTG09niowbPbDAVeYzAvi5g3Ru qa3um4BWolfvVs0gNeqyUox5y8OPS/yo/GNbsSj/8RfqnmxbC1YWCXeYFJVxr2ujHqRI whug== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUutZu6ntVthyxFvI5rknjRsX/3XjXlMEX9ykqIuai12SVmB06r R/Yz43uEoAknbPEVZ9d8YnLpg66mBHbrLFInuxk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyGOWn5NLOcZArmqDQJzmTI+CwTWxWfuoiVj8VgfpwpoQfqU/g7cQPRJ2l+gmLbFDpVlKfbPYuajAHshpb+ByQ= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:53a7:: with SMTP id j7mr3489099lfh.112.1563915380077; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:56:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <28a9ccf7-f5be-eb1e-999a-06170beeed4b@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28a9ccf7-f5be-eb1e-999a-06170beeed4b@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 22:56:03 +0200 Message-ID: To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: "G. P. B." , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b038ec058e5f6c17" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2 From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --000000000000b038ec058e5f6c17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 10:22 PM Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > Due to the controversy after the initial vote on the Deprecate PHP's > Short > > Open Tag RFC [1] here is a new RFC to deprecate them written with the > help > > of Nikita Popov . > > Could you please explain what has changed since the last time we > discussed it that makes it necessary to bring the second RFC on the same > topic? Did any arguments about the dangers of removing the short tags > somehow became invalid? If yes, then how? What necessitates changing the > results of that RFC almost immediately after it was implemented? Sorry, but ... what? I feel like there must be some miscommunication here. This RFC is intended as a courtesy, because the previous one was **accepted**, but quite a few concerns were raised afterward and Zeev has suggested that the question should be reevaluated in a new RFC. This is it. I did not want to just merge the original (accepted!) implementation after the controversial discussion it triggered, but after reading this, I realize that I just wasted my time here. So much for being nice and giving people a fair change to reevaluate the proposal in light of the new arguments that have been brought forward. I guess that next time I'll just go ahead and merge things. Regards, Nikita --000000000000b038ec058e5f6c17--