Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106258 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1996 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2019 22:58:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-pg1-f181.google.com) (209.85.215.181) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2019 22:58:51 -0000 Received: by mail-pg1-f181.google.com with SMTP id f25so19954602pgv.10 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:22:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:openpgp:autocrypt:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kDsEshQ5xhgevfR5dhSBgIgLqECKp/RPD9fL/7y6bvE=; b=pd3tWWty1kRrpzFxgxigdcoseqs9VftYtVcFXxRoDLABziOpOaWK2yVPfiODHTOThF i4IrzUdnUgTMsrbqD21XjhxaZTsvvlnLE9xKOnnB5T98ghKl3pZQpdafDYBIQZOPX2ft bqf8FcxuipvBatZFtuw0uKdOcNEMBJpKT90rM/K48vbNl3rG5zkJ4+kV2LwgNwCUPECl X5I7ZnX74PvIVhAxIxInOCz76zaRqGl/bk65fxC6xlZmwazYFOID2Dq1H0QokURw5kAb e32VyeOCP4yXItXNfc0aVxMFv21Ks1aXZmd1TSpnsmJp/kgZxAk8mzQ4VcV07/tW9T+p 9itw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:openpgp:autocrypt :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kDsEshQ5xhgevfR5dhSBgIgLqECKp/RPD9fL/7y6bvE=; b=MR24CC2I2oK0EFuoTv6jnLh5/FUhHB71vCRUPHdyh0g75tNSe299HrODvVvRSbLiiP 3ZwGIttiWUe0RS2UgcrhDIsU63BPRkx96NXRscNTbKml+1vZQKea6nbsil5PiFmoy1eM l+1t1NTjcIJvN+d1o4gSgWa9IUnE42ZCysM4c75mfaX48JToy7Vyj3F3KIueDQS5ltMy aT71C+VzIhYM0sJjuRzZz6p4Px73CB4tEraWuWNTF7lIw8s9nVMyDW2Aj2XrhJzF6WM6 BIPWhLuvCJApIWDA4E2Sp4tAHJSM59LGQIabH81efvosx4aDKUdM3xjurDfx1Emnzoi5 MYcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXIvlmFp+EgL17cgUFmjeZZ0wNGUwzXBe2HmzL8DdGeZUKwi2S4 7ySwS5JkdxyCXVpBrdZQMLvQQgFg4Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyC29X0/Uq+bnUF+QnO00aWK2eybHjH6ykMNt2qO0Qxzfv1BXpfrpJ7js0ThP+9018576wfkA== X-Received: by 2002:a63:7e55:: with SMTP id o21mr68796963pgn.200.1563913323311; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Pro-2016.lan (c-24-4-176-254.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. 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Could you please explain what has changed since the last time we discussed it that makes it necessary to bring the second RFC on the same topic? Did any arguments about the dangers of removing the short tags somehow became invalid? If yes, then how? What necessitates changing the results of that RFC almost immediately after it was implemented? In the RFC, I read: Worse than that, code using short open tags deployed on a server using short_open_tag=0 will leak application code, because short open tags are silently ignored. I am not sure how it is supposed to be an argument for making such behavior the default. Could you explain? -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com