Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106257 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 88484 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2019 21:46:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-wm1-f43.google.com) (209.85.128.43) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2019 21:46:43 -0000 Received: by mail-wm1-f43.google.com with SMTP id l2so39433569wmg.0 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:09:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; bh=tTc5yZ4jGeMW5FRUEkn80VevmzaLGRN9j2eKxCGSYjk=; b=pxd4f7b4dPwb8UZTJ/gBNDyW6ZTYcBg2MThZYqtwo+ioTHJ+VsD5m3e6q40msvdXGE KXJhZqMFMt/SeVLBQG0gFen5CRhmZWyaj9AqHs1XZAoiEZ+KsZNerGY4YYsRMK5MjB6q YjeZoO/oKGiPTeXc6wSCgKUsxzJfoAHigdS38wPLdPYAFv9aK9IwfK8MarzCT/5mNvET LA6r57fNha79OsfJLdMCMOuGPAwrUOeZEd6SKj6CZrpEBDjhmko4ECubefaLyo5ffQde 9o5X7WYG7xX7y4pBwV6JFuMQQMD86SLMzPEIRZLz5PJW9SMv3HjjjHSZoeXtsqt4Tc0L uOOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; bh=tTc5yZ4jGeMW5FRUEkn80VevmzaLGRN9j2eKxCGSYjk=; b=FZbPW7GuS/nVjHVtyu9aYqmWX8hRBZkw6XMzv37n1SAXKaaEBFJGVBzce5Mg5q26by rh8Vux2jnevmIUtxIrX5sTw/cg0MmwHosytlEcubXf7A9K95qGgKYds5Wf190Ow32efd ckZb+MUvQRPkdCiBCUtfRvk33PMLTHg4vlfero9Y/7u+fjZH6k7E1adJkpToD+A5K8g2 yqZqa2U1Z0PICiTJPs+3la0hbHOCLhe33/ak+kAU1aaR9ja3K/bmbz3Wcr3r3nTf45wR v5GpRHlLh3EopfXcIclhJ4sfoOzdiqLGGbA/lFtYc7/bk7wW/9qJ50pH4qFDUCiKOWIM XK1A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXa312x4WCgxcVji4qAS6N69va/8Sijgpyb92XVi6jppl+POjdR EUp6lSDKXUR4NJwsnyTN6OCuYfYF X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxrOrBC2lrjnNa1x5u2OM/lHSIQGYbmYrc58RADDGh3AfCSnxNjK4A8jGyEoDSI6gf5ZYTczw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:21d4:: with SMTP id x20mr64337973wmj.61.1563908995476; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (cpc84253-brig22-2-0-cust114.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [81.108.141.115]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j33sm86549675wre.42.2019.07.23.12.09.54 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 20:09:50 +0100 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <5C8F3403-2972-467A-AFA5-347C09E5FA73@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2 From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 23 July 2019 18:54:48 BST, "G=2E P=2E B=2E" wrote: >The only point of contention of this RFC that I potentially see is the >removal in PHP 8=2E1 after short open tags being a Parse Error in PHP 8= =2E0 >instead of it being removed in PHP 9 after it having had a whole major >version release cycle=2E Given that you've already predicted that this will be controversial, could= you provide some rationale for it? Unless there's a major burden in mainta= ining the parser error behaviour for a few years, waiting for the next majo= r version would seem both safer and more in line with official versioning p= olicy=2E As with deprecation itself, any violation of the "no breaking changes" rul= e, however slight, should have an explicit justification=2E If I had a vote= , any RFC omitting such a justification would receive an automatic "no" fro= m me=2E Regards, --=20 Rowan Collins [IMSoP]