Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106205 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20329 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2019 14:21:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qrelay163.mxroute.com) (172.82.139.163) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2019 14:21:41 -0000 Received: from filter001.mxrelay.co (unknown [94.130.183.33]) by qrelay163.mxroute.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5504E14093B; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eagle.mxlogin.com (unknown [23.92.74.70]) by filter001.mxrelay.co (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0E96100A08; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:41:32 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 06:41:32 -0500 To: =?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?= Cc: PHP Internals List In-Reply-To: References: <499ae81a-f8d1-8b32-5b2e-573b30c4734f@exussum.co.uk> Message-ID: <0572e0f32bd5c9ecb08e93e81671bad1@exussum.co.uk> X-Sender: scott@exussum.co.uk User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.8 X-AuthUser: scott@exussum.co.uk Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] DKIM on messages From: scott@exussum.co.uk (Scott Dutton) On 2019-07-08 15:57, Tim Düsterhus wrote: > This will *still* break anything using DMARC, because neither DKIM nor > SPF is valid. Anything *not* using DMARC is better off, though. > > Ideally the email modifications are disabled entirely. The emails can > be > reliably detected using the List-Id header and filtered based on it. > > Best regards > Tim Düsterhus Hi Tim The suggested method is not modifying the emails as you suggested, unsubscribe links should be handled by adding a List-Unsubscribe header (which almost all major providers use to show inline unsubscribe links) though that needs a one click link which the current link is not (so again a little more work) Im not sure how big of a change that will be (as it will be many people updating filters I assume) but yeah that's a much better way. I assume people must get dmarc reports now as the SPF and DKIM checks will both fail currently ? Thanks Scott