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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Feedback on state of some PHP extensions, functions,
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From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=)

Hi,

On Wed, 2019-06-12 at 17:32 +0200, G. P. B. wrote:
>    - the enable_dl directive, it is said that "This deprecated
> feature    *will* certainly be *removed* in the future."  [x] is this
> the case already? addressed in the Deprecation for 7.4 draft RFC [2]

I missed that debate, but I think there is value in being able to turn
of `dl()` even in CLI context. There is certainly value in having an
easy switch for embed to disable this (might be some compile-time
decision in that case however)

>    - ini_alter an alias of ini_set [3]

15,482 hits on GitHub
https://github.com/search?l=PHP&q=ini_alter&type=Code

subtracting the phpt files (I wish gH code search would filter out
forks ...) and files for syntax highlighters etc. this isn't much, but
some productive code.

>    - Change print return's type from int to void as it always returns
> 1 [19]
>    to mimic echo [20] or maybe mimic printf's behavior i.e. the
> length of the
>    string printed [21]

Note that `echo`'s return value isn't void, but non-existent as echo
can not be used in an expression. 

I believe it's good if `print`'s return value is always true'ish (i.e.
not returning the length) so that

   $a = "";
   (print $a) && something_else()

works.

johannes