Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105667 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23231 invoked from network); 10 May 2019 23:51:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mo4-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de) (85.215.255.24) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 10 May 2019 23:51:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1557521763; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=kelunik.com; h=Cc:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:From:In-Reply-To:References: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=WGZYN1En4x1NbqqJ9ZCk4FKazVcnvAB6jdCxQJnizQE=; b=Cl86/XKYeEyHHJxjCsSfpGTS3TlpHZJkmJ4AarOsAexea4yK60cKU3gf5Cbz2MWSBV 0J2iSxCZcfcIZM0p+exTTc8OcD/hfI8M6ivnwym/f+69W/46YVDIX1bKMt6b4wyt7EIO ORrAnQHf0ityVg2Jv43f+nDcjwPnJrVCP+WewP+jl9aHya4Q+EJuXMzX/o4dh+HuIEiB u8/QDWNgen3GD4GeyQZJ29bWkbxErMmFwgsEt/rXrFG0s3IsCdwJU/E/2q2Y3UoIINrF apmR0Np90nnQbvmRzLXWyTYurVU0NjN/um8BSOdH7XbKp0hClChdnpfd54WAyhjPPl5Z 5HHA== X-RZG-AUTH: ":IWkkfkWkbvHsXQGmRYmUo9mlsGbEv0XHBzMIJSS+jKTzde5mDb8AaBYcZiAqcA==" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from mail-pf1-f176.google.com by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 44.18 AUTH) with ESMTPSA id D06319v4AKu3KCF (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (curve secp384r1 with 384 ECDH bits, eq. 7680 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate) for ; Fri, 10 May 2019 22:56:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-pf1-f176.google.com with SMTP id t87so3841045pfa.2 for ; Fri, 10 May 2019 13:56:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW+pNgziURMOR0jHzdZx0zJZHsT+rTLTg8qQnd9WubqxCnnhFZk DgZq+vl6SbguKEhu71hAn62eUI4h5zx3OoIuwX4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwZsdyTRq4IagOwUre8uSycvthyQpPSKFzMZM3K/W9UShZ9o//XteMXDTnltzt7B1zG51KJpg+CgRBBwvbNt+Y= X-Received: by 2002:a63:441c:: with SMTP id r28mr16301588pga.255.1557521762455; Fri, 10 May 2019 13:56:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 22:55:51 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: "BohwaZ/PHP" Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] open_basedir? From: me@kelunik.com (Niklas Keller) > I'm against deprecating it or removing it. > > As said earlier, it has some security value, especially with mass > hosting. If I'm hosting thousands of websites for thousands of users, > using chroot is not doable, and open_basedir is a good alternative (at > least it's better than nothing). > > That's why it's used by ISPconfig and other panels: there is no other > solution that I know of. That's exactly the reason why I'm for removing it. There will always be ways to circumvent open_basedir and setups like this are insecure. It gives a false sense of security. It's not better than nothing, because most hosting providers would opt for a real solution instead of leaving users entirely unprotected. Regards, Niklas