Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105576 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51345 invoked from network); 3 May 2019 01:29:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.fiapohost.net) (50.31.98.198) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 3 May 2019 01:29:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=galvao.eti.br; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Reply-To: Sender:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ECMDKujfBpfZO5arMM0r8q91K5XzXt4rdti15mEA2zA=; b=o3fe1/uCGhiwMmUfFa3gPr9FSh wjgHL3MnnOXmbm8bGKCsPu1mb3zB4TyTKjm418VAF9u3VwEAJ6fJeVoOQ3X5qAKKYiBQbh9uRk7FP p37NB7pIqHhEtIhCzmqyzDRsmnJf3pOzxj0QAu/nKMqlD+kUeeVQ5uJT96YZ6bhw+9H4jfM7T1cFT jjuA8OcRXx0VxJHRPrq0Q6z6cdeV47oFN69tRq8SiKAbuJbjacKxApp6x+vnoQyFZqw8jibEgGml8 2r9QwnI10nMKgn8D5S50qgd9ntB/PhOZ9wfM+aIbl2S8/eeKz6JADXS46LNPFTH1vuJAqHmLSEXrD DozqojXg==; Received: from [189.6.234.33] (port=7907 helo=[192.168.0.16]) by server.fiapohost.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1hMKF7-0006dB-LH for internals@lists.php.net; Thu, 02 May 2019 17:31:53 -0500 Reply-To: galvao@galvao.eti.br To: internals@lists.php.net References: Message-ID: <15417e8d-56f8-d28f-213c-ad561cefa7b4@galvao.eti.br> Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 19:31:50 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.fiapohost.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - galvao.eti.br X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server.fiapohost.net: authenticated_id: galvao@galvao.eti.br X-Authenticated-Sender: server.fiapohost.net: galvao@galvao.eti.br X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV][DISCUSSION] Multilingual PHP From: galvao@galvao.eti.br (Er Galvao Abbott) My two cents on this, since I teach beginner courses on a regular basis: All languages - that I'm aware of - have English as their basis. As a matter of fact our industry as a whole have English as it's basis. I often tell my students: learn English. You'll eventually need it and it will provide you with a whole different view of all things as you'll understand their meaning. You may argue it's unfair or even cruel, but it is what it is. So while I understand the reason behind this discussion - and am even sympathetic towards it - it seems to be "Working on a problem that's not really there". Aside from all this, wasn't this one of the downfalls of PHP6? Er Galvão Abbott Development, Consulting and Teaching https://www.galvao.eti.br/ | galvao@galvao.eti.br ------------------------------------------------------------ Contributor and Evangelist, PHP Director, PHP Conference Brazil Zend Framework Evangelist @ Roguewave Zend's ZTeam Fedora Ambassador LATAM Guest (Specialist) Post Graduation Professor ------------------------------------------------------------ On 4/11/19 6:36 PM, Bruce Weirdan wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:17 AM Benjamin Morel > wrote: > >> This may be harder for people having a native language with a different >> alphabet, though. >> > That's unlikely to be a problem. Even to get to the PHP manual you have to > type `www.php.net` (or `google.com` if you want to google something), > so it implies you have a way to enter latin characters. Keyboard layout > switching is a problem solved decades ago. >