Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105518 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64322 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2019 19:01:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-lj1-f172.google.com) (209.85.208.172) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2019 19:01:31 -0000 Received: by mail-lj1-f172.google.com with SMTP id c6so6812365lji.11 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 09:03:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KNME4cDP1yV1J36VZAia16JNdbGa+YdXwtueyJ/MWco=; b=naXhxorBi1D1v/oqx1kLc1jv8ouaUWDzePOzd5BPgAskbN+o8s/MOD/I0sd2/s3LDI fhTSUH2YPGP+/JMNpC5tzqGhsmKDV+mePc+asoJhNQAEy/98ItVQ6CIfepOIRB/dZgsH 9SL56caC9vUnCsABdHmr75Zx1G7aG6iyj4gCI6CtxgO9rSL9glUmXWbRNmxsua1irMue Fw2ryhU/cDWPJOGFE/JHItE2HPC/ebrtxk8T130+hY7bRC+lebwtAN7U5YsSzOvPnnTI Ru2B7AfVmgMGkhh/q/r7mnmPS+sXapb7etPzLlI33HgzAlGwTeVZvtBK3+fi3MuZlH97 pZmA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU4ZapSrn3pCY5/aUouvvKbkBbwHe18MZpmSCtYBr2IeiGFoVnA xIEWz6ybgE6l7I2pqrp9703XU83IEJoaalBwhho= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzMA8KjrtCH+l95tqLofipSvO7luyF3wxCRhd1AiMfjO+dt2jcxSXRh/oBm2kISpYBjwQJO4glIN2VhOgdp1dc= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:2b97:: with SMTP id r23mr7140698ljr.131.1556640221175; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 09:03:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0ec42fa9-77d1-a203-8425-e72fdd5071f3@korulczyk.pl> <06473788-a34b-f041-36e6-31d19d8dda4c@cubiclesoft.com> <59cafbfb-2bb0-468c-458f-74bcac780e0f@korulczyk.pl> <004c01d4f09f$880ac320$98204960$@roze.lv> <004401d4faa3$60f83700$22e8a500$@gmail.com> <2f922f17-bc7c-313a-8f77-122e861995be@lsces.co.uk> <5741936F-B1F4-43C7-B815-F9D8030AC7BB@koalephant.com> <49A4B76C-4C62-4CBE-BA20-FBE56CA29AB0@cschneid.com> <609E93CF-099B-446C-AD28-04F1D802C9F0@cschneid.com> <000401d4fac8$ae592cf0$0b0b86d0$@roze.lv> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 10:03:22 -0600 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: PHP Internals List , "G. P. B." Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison) On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:01 AM Zeev Suraski wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 2:14 PM G. P. B. wrote: > > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 16:53, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 5:19 PM Dan Ackroyd > >> wrote: > >> > Please stop doing this. > >> > >> I will gladly do so, once the project starts behaving responsibly again. > >> > > > > Honnestly, this comment right here Zeev just makes me want to not > > compromise at all. > > I think you seriously lost any hope there was that I'm going to put back > > this to a vote. > > > > In retrospect, I should have waited for Dan's insulting message to wear off > before replying to it. > > The fact the RFC included a confusing secondary vote, that was defined > against our RFC rules and may have been misunderstood by folks who voted > (and consequently may have resulted in different outcomes) - is sufficient > grounds to disqualify this vote and require a restarted vote on a fixed RFC > (that can include the amendments you have in mind to make the 8.0 behavior > different from what the RFC proposed). > > Zeev I read our voting rules, checked with a few people, and thought about it for a while, and I still do not know what rule breakage you are referring to. How did this supposedly break our voting rules? If you want any support on disqualifying this RFC, you need to clearly state the violation.