Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105510 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95669 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2019 17:51:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tbjjbihbhebb.turbo-smtp.net) (199.187.174.11) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2019 17:51:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=php.net; s=turbo-smtp; x=1557154423; h=DomainKey-Signature:Received: Received:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date: Message-ID:Subject:To:Cc:Content-Type; bh=PxVgWJgDWIz9pLbfH6c7lM KKxRM58PS2XOT+f2bWm5I=; b=bJvarhedLco1Qx84ZPzCJoPo3COCXdbuzkI+qs FW3zPu3Y8em8PdIWRyjTYfchLk2KuLTcpEbs4UC7CzA8KzHPrWD4OQc9TYOErZLy KvsU/RWCKoOuE9ELqFW5AsLrWySwbZAvj7uqxJdxGojbwlEntoT1QQ5/K51i+nyK N6ECo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=turbo-smtp; d=php.net; h=Received:Received:X-TurboSMTP-Tracking:X-Gm-Message-State:X-Google-Smtp-Source:X-Received:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:X-Gmail-Original-Message-Id:Message-ID:Subject:To:Cc:Content-Type; b=VYbNJcOGWxr+kAggJkrFGS3doESz0TqnWV8I9+6GHWd2iKEIih3dmM38+GrMAn PgJ5zNvUk/kf6F40tOH2VzDcOaTA5XmBVX0B9YCIIf1gn9yHwrx1wY8HWG3dYyI1 iflXOVVH030H7SGtOu2g9ub9iWKIZ1r6dTytvIT33QkQM=; Received: (qmail 20588 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2019 14:26:46 -0000 Received: X-TurboSMTP-Tracking: 4999547548 X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU8EUnAR9Mcx9mGU2B9eO2Mps5MI5IPy0MemiNAy/H5KOhJ8HgQ 3mhPTx/+NtRabXOoKKq7rjcOuIsBn0pYhCSRaHI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxJ2X+dng1GKm76LJ/h5/Lr7AblYCA5YOh/IQyEKzzgLwO+4tbfmlQ6yg1agwCeNTdvWrKjVi0l1v6wqY1KuyE= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:6004:: with SMTP id r4mr4330614iog.8.1556548005581; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 07:26:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 l.gmail.com> <000401d4fac8$ae592cf0$0b0b86d0$@roze.lv> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 17:26:33 +0300 X-Gmail-Original-Message-Id: Message-ID: To: Dan Ackroyd Cc: PHP Internals List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f2d9140587ac12b6" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags From: zeev@php.net (Zeev Suraski) --000000000000f2d9140587ac12b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 5:19 PM Dan Ackroyd wrote: > On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 13:29, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > If we go in this direction, though, then unless George agrees to withdraw > >this RFC > > Zeev, > > I do not think you behaviour is appropriate. > > It's not appropriate to put pressure on an RFC author to withdraw an > RFC after it has been voted on. > > It's not appropriate to try to change the rules on voting after a vote > has occurred. > No Dan. What's inappropriate is the wholesale compatibility break-fast that we're experiencing here, for virtually no reason, while exhibiting total disregard for the issues we're creating for folks out there. I do not feel comfortable having to ask George to withdraw or reopen his RFC, but I feel a lot less comfortable betraying the trust of millions of developers - so I'm doing it anyway, despite the unpleasantry involved. > Please stop doing this. > I will gladly do so, once the project starts behaving responsibly again. You may think I'm enjoying it, or otherwise taking it lightly - but trust me, there's nothing I hate doing more than quaralleing on things like that on internals. And yet, this must be done. Zeev --000000000000f2d9140587ac12b6--