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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 19:27:11 -0500
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate left-associative ternary operator
From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon)

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 6:48 PM Christoph M. Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de>
wrote:

> On 24.04.2019 at 19:25, Sara Golemon wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 3:56 AM Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> 20 years of code in the wild has not "accepted that fact and moved on".
> If
> >> a left-associative ternary is used, it is almost certainly a bug. If
> people
> >> use this structure by accident (because it is familiar from other
> >> programming languages), I'd like them to get an error instead of having
> to
> >> figure out why their obviously correct code is not working or, in the
> worse
> >> case, just leave behind buggy code.
> >
> > I'm on dismal wifi at the moment, else I'd do some searches, but do you
> > have any examples of code in the wild subject to this bug?
> > I agree it's a lousy state, but it's not emergent.
>
> See <https://externals.io/message/105345#105389>.
>
>  Okay, so the most compelling part for me in this analysis is the fact
that Symfony and ZF have issues.  I can shrug off a lot of questionable PHP
coders, but i have to acknowledge major frameworks stumbling on this gotcha.

Convinced.
+1

-Sara

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