Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105420 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 79610 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2019 01:17:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO v-smtpout1.han.skanova.net) (81.236.60.154) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2019 01:17:46 -0000 Received: from [192.168.7.8] ([213.64.245.126]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id JQDlhLbTrSq0xJQDmhXTco; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 00:18:30 +0200 To: Andrey Andreev References: <0ec42fa9-77d1-a203-8425-e72fdd5071f3@korulczyk.pl> <06473788-a34b-f041-36e6-31d19d8dda4c@cubiclesoft.com> <59cafbfb-2bb0-468c-458f-74bcac780e0f@korulczyk.pl> <004c01d4f09f$880ac320$98204960$@roze.lv> <004401d4faa3$60f83700$22e8a500$@gmail.com> <562844948.628797.1556121791361@email.ionos.de> <237591f3-0b9c-21f8-3e0b-77f811e4f9a6@telia.com> Cc: PHP internals Message-ID: <941fa058-6d54-c4e3-da72-19c975d2ae50@telia.com> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 00:18:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfA8N0tt33A+GHSkd8uyKJsYVHtTtHgvXNDRk3z22TIUrYOBOcBlqELixeumDfJiRsbM7CG7/5x7e26cfs8+jVSc57A5e3nCpyDR2MXpP90DrvzM1fDE3 U3hvTMJSM16w6pvH2feDTCq6t2kWtWODM7IMKUOYY3GH2LYxJGdm24pd5/XfxsnY4ZDdOJ6XHHIZGGQweEej6XUK/s5T/1mZaAQ= Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags From: bjorn.x.larsson@telia.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Bj=c3=b6rn_Larsson?=) Den 2019-04-24 kl. 23:35, skrev Andrey Andreev: > Hello, > > I personally am not happy with the outcome of the vote. I think > there's no practical benefit to be gained from the proposal and I > don't even understand what has urged the author to make it; I voted No > on both questions. > > However, what's done is done and these post-vote protests are getting > ridiculous. Where were you all during discussion and even during the > voting period? I only remember a single person's rant here and barely > any comments on social media about it ... The people who voted Yes may > have weak arguments ("there's tools out there" isn't a good argument > in my book), they may've underestimated the impact of the change or > they may not even care about it. But they cared enough to drop by and > make their views count, while almost nobody cared enough to come here > and say this isn't right. We don't get to force-reverse a decision > that we didn't care enough for when it mattered. > > Cheers, > Andrey. You are absolutely right! The only excuse for myself during the discussion etc was that I thought it never would pass, so I "slept"... One thing to consider though is if the BC break together with other features is big enough to justify extended support for 7.4? r//Björn L