Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105417 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71882 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2019 01:06:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO v-smtpout1.han.skanova.net) (81.236.60.154) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2019 01:06:16 -0000 Received: from [192.168.7.8] ([213.64.245.126]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id JQ2dhLZVMSq0xJQ2ehXT17; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 00:07:00 +0200 To: Peter Kokot Cc: Chase Peeler , Marco Pivetta , Christian Schneider , PHP Internals List References: <004c01d4f09f$880ac320$98204960$@roze.lv> <004401d4faa3$60f83700$22e8a500$@gmail.com> <2f922f17-bc7c-313a-8f77-122e861995be@lsces.co.uk> <5741936F-B1F4-43C7-B815-F9D8030AC7BB@koalephant.com> <49A4B76C-4C62-4CBE-BA20-FBE56CA29AB0@cschneid.com> <609E93CF-099B-446C-AD28-04F1D802C9F0@cschneid.com> <48c67f2b-02f1-510a-320f-99f67215ad14@telia.com> Message-ID: <92d09146-dee2-c052-d609-6b64e197af9e@telia.com> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 00:07:03 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfI1bIgm6+7RT4YDyL/Q0r20/o4SSoGa8q9xPAvOZj5XnAKyeV0+wwR5nZBz+Qs0dQFZ53RGgxbbGOAYSy04huLgd040X9NtQ9XsA9urfDEo09sVErhKh eMr9PrqSJfPR5CA2TYctMbHlILD2XyC44Ad6DRAEWJCi55/KGtCI0CqaNkjHU8IyD9VZ0H7E3QNitIhmfCcLUEVSRRTj3AUHMVEKkHynj35ZwWPQDM21wmN+ 8N9pAz+xw0Ob59WbM6dzvPlAj425wKJVVfJ2B5G3yJlHp5oB7Fkq044HvJMP1F9ew0cqFsodeD3aTeWRdF0HhA== Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags From: bjorn.x.larsson@telia.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Bj=c3=b6rn_Larsson?=) Den 2019-04-24 kl. 23:38, skrev Peter Kokot: > Hello, > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 23:12, Björn Larsson wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I did a quick check on two open source libraries that I'm using, >> namely Smarty templating library and Revive ad server. A quick >> glance at hand shows that they both uses the > latest release. Smarty 3.1.33 was released 17/9 2018 and >> Revive 4.2.0 was released 23/4 2019. >> >> It would be interesting to see if there is any benefit in fixing this >> feature for these two well-established libraries? I think that both >> these libraries will adapt, but how long will it take... Regarding >> your points above I don't see any added value that this feature >> brings for me as a user of these two libraries, since I'm quite >> happy with the functionality they provide as is. How then the >> developers see it is not up to me to judge. >> >> r//Björn L >> > I'm not sure if we're looking at the same libraries and versions here > but both of these use normal opening tags in the code for quite a > while: > https://github.com/revive-adserver/revive-adserver > https://github.com/smarty-php/smarty > > Keywords open source, PHP, and short opening tags don't go together > anymore neither people coding in PHP are using these anymore for a > very long time. If they postpone upgrades and neglect good coding > practices, nothing can help them improve or fix their apps. Well, checking a bit closer when running the script: grep -rin "