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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 23:38:44 +0200
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To: =?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn_Larsson?= <bjorn.x.larsson@telia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags
From: peterkokot@gmail.com (Peter Kokot)

Hello,

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 23:12, Bj=C3=B6rn Larsson <bjorn.x.larsson@telia.com=
> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I did a quick check on two open source libraries that I'm using,
> namely Smarty templating library and Revive ad server. A quick
> glance at hand shows that they both uses the <? tag in their
> latest release. Smarty 3.1.33 was released 17/9 2018 and
> Revive 4.2.0 was released 23/4 2019.
>
> It would be interesting to see if there is any benefit in fixing this
> feature for these two well-established libraries? I think that both
> these libraries will adapt, but how long will it take... Regarding
> your points above I don't see any added value that this feature
> brings for me as a user of these two libraries, since I'm quite
> happy with the functionality they provide as is. How then the
> developers see it is not up to me to judge.
>
> r//Bj=C3=B6rn L
>

I'm not sure if we're looking at the same libraries and versions here
but both of these use normal opening tags in the code for quite a
while:
https://github.com/revive-adserver/revive-adserver
https://github.com/smarty-php/smarty

Keywords open source, PHP, and short opening tags don't go together
anymore neither people coding in PHP are using these anymore for a
very long time. If they postpone upgrades and neglect good coding
practices, nothing can help them improve or fix their apps.
--=20
Peter Kokot