Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105383 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39050 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2019 19:02:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mout.kundenserver.de) (212.227.126.135) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2019 19:02:32 -0000 Received: from oxbaltgw36.schlund.de ([172.19.246.44]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [213.165.67.97]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N2Dgk-1gf8vh2J2s-013gf8; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:03:11 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:03:11 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Thomas Bley To: vsuraski@gmail.com, PHP internals Message-ID: <562844948.628797.1556121791361@email.ionos.de> In-Reply-To: <004401d4faa3$60f83700$22e8a500$@gmail.com> References: <0ec42fa9-77d1-a203-8425-e72fdd5071f3@korulczyk.pl> <06473788-a34b-f041-36e6-31d19d8dda4c@cubiclesoft.com> <59cafbfb-2bb0-468c-458f-74bcac780e0f@korulczyk.pl> <004c01d4f09f$880ac320$98204960$@roze.lv> <004401d4faa3$60f83700$22e8a500$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.8.4-Rev54 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:moN3NVf+tuvwDP3CZaUJlRaf0s0dgOAhkXeFPg84XAjRQPmkccf 48RkpKCWSfbgTTr55A9tZyJ/hMI/Z1PSfDauwkc7YOoVL0Ey/BTh610QeIayTwH/ggJK4ha RRJ2Yf03w7IEU4wQdM+pssyJ5iUGSpAdq8fYk4Zbh1ld/BcviJjLA/WqMzHpWzkDNSe5X/M 4nPhF/GszhdXjTV4oPzag== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:20/4vrzhJuQ=:Y5Aid9vWQDZpXft2+X7zVP +CM1iB7ov9zOVF0zimA3uDQdZHaXiuaMvOCAQiIHqkEl+dNrQB1WmQenTAM5c8qwnGVvsh7JV kQPcUUtTDcaPsTErGQmXm3EyAmQZj7E8mYkOzXkRNiunELqIicIdSxpPzHg3QNJf1yG5LUhRG E4CxW0ryx9CvX9hw/MbOVZDvp5sL8Z1FxFnQp6UAn6ebB6Vxp4BoV+XOFR8BzckVHIpFAnc56 j8zWifCZ2DPhvvPIJIeXzCzqCtmHsdPbV+7An/S42UBxm3sQngRgvqG9H6XkTBuzWMaO1O6yD W8JIb3yxqf08N+l8zB5/MfWD/svCnpSYkVFCkHUDrg2fQ8wIEXtCe5sRfScAqYswcCGW0QXBm 8sp19GVp61z3DiEUjSuK9a7aTypAVRP8g4mv+WhU+JM7xk22O/wXwDhZ27UQcdagZhm6DnX7O qiXNUsIMHXTDoEaXz48NMaQ6pfvPCxR3Br5Er5DoybKddRVjtpbxGDRydgkiEhaE4pxVqRzRI IzlgE4NN8Mr3LeWFfZG+Ebrz1HaoKE/+8wCZ914pTJBFdWA+A3DypQFGMUjDlAl709kzks6tV m/g+k+IAogzQ4BvCBgKtLTphKc9f9cefIXZ+bGXSOsZLzFb0IEcvWRf4pjvaGcoMleEkeSF7H lScqsi6GiPwL8/c+NKPxOQUdik5pvcv7Kih/reTV3RG1Dh26E/eofWEXMsqMnfZ+/T+nQBPqW +AHQD/KDWFq1lWXNo4VLfUzLHpq2agmVQLgabLsKIrijR7FtjS2WiqLUPFU= Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags From: mails@thomasbley.de (Thomas Bley) Hello, I understand that breaking changes always need extra work, but in this case I think it's a quick change. On my code base (mostly legacy with 1.8m lines), I ran this and got 10 matches to check: grep -rin " vsuraski@gmail.com hat am 24. April 2019 um 15:41 geschrieben: > > > FWIW, > > I think it's a bad decision, made against the thoughts of clear majority of core developers - and for hardly a good reason. I believe it illustrates very well why we need to properly define our voting eligibility rules, and I hope someone would be up to the challenge of tackling it (I decided not to pursue it further after the 'abolish' RFC(s)). > > A 68% majority which barely clears the 2/3 requirements for something as fundamental as that - with so many core devs against it - we'll deserve all the criticism that will be coming our way in 7.4/8.0 from end users wondering why we needlessly broke their apps and made migration a bit more of a headache. > > My 2c. > > Zeev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: G. P. B. > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 2:29 PM > To: PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags > > Hello Internal, > > The two weeks of voting have now ended. > The results are 38 for and 18 against (total 56) for the primary vote to deprecate PHP's short open tag in PHP 7.4. > This passes in favor with 68%. > > The results are 42 for and 15 against (total 57) for the secondary vote to remove PHP's short open tag in PHP 8. > This passes in favor with 74%. > > Thanks for everyone who voted on this issue. > > Best regards > > George P. Banyard > > > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php