Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105375 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4006 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2019 17:35:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.25mail.st) (206.123.115.54) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2019 17:35:37 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.90] (unknown [49.48.243.98]) by mail1.25mail.st (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3539603D0; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.8\)) In-Reply-To: <2f922f17-bc7c-313a-8f77-122e861995be@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 21:36:06 +0700 Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <5741936F-B1F4-43C7-B815-F9D8030AC7BB@koalephant.com> References: <0ec42fa9-77d1-a203-8425-e72fdd5071f3@korulczyk.pl> <06473788-a34b-f041-36e6-31d19d8dda4c@cubiclesoft.com> <59cafbfb-2bb0-468c-458f-74bcac780e0f@korulczyk.pl> <004c01d4f09f$880ac320$98204960$@roze.lv> <004401d4faa3$60f83700$22e8a500$@gmail.com> <2f922f17-bc7c-313a-8f77-122e861995be@lsces.co.uk> To: Lester Caine X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.8) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags From: php-lists@koalephant.com (Stephen Reay) > On 24 Apr 2019, at 21:00, Lester Caine wrote: >=20 > On 24/04/2019 14:41, vsuraski@gmail.com wrote: >> A 68% majority which barely clears the 2/3 requirements for something = as fundamental as that - with so many core devs against it - we'll = deserve all the criticism that will be coming our way in 7.4/8.0 from = end users wondering why we needlessly broke their apps and made = migration a bit more of a headache. >=20 > This is yet another negative move in my forward planning and just = another cross against even bothering with PHP8 ... and PHP7.4 is only = going to complain about things so while I've not even started testing on = PHP7.3, that is likely to be the last version of PHP I will be using ... = once all the warnings are dealt with on PHP7.2 ... I don't think even = the carrot of 'JIT' this time trumps being beaten around the head with = more and more BC changes we will to have to manage and adding 'php' to = every =20 > --=20 > Lester Caine - G8HFL > ----------------------------- > Contact - https://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=3Dcontact > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - https://lsces.co.uk > EnquirySolve - https://enquirysolve.com/ > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - https://medw.co.uk > Rainbow Digital Media - https://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk >=20 > --=20 > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >=20 Of all the things to =E2=80=98refuse to upgrade=E2=80=99 over this seems = pretty silly. There are multiple tools that will automatically fix this = across an entire codebase in seconds. Heck, a sed 1 liner would do it if = you want to DIY it.