Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105371 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78582 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2019 16:40:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-io1-f54.google.com) (209.85.166.54) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2019 16:40:34 -0000 Received: by mail-io1-f54.google.com with SMTP id d19so11615212ioc.3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 06:41:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:thread-index:content-language; bh=sktAqcvf6MvwwV8+GbgGKBvghIV7QXyaR29z2Y6Nsug=; b=uGEeqERz+psRfF/ylXKmdS4VUPfg4LbIcyIszGRDfFiyUeT2qnPoOWVwrm0iufjwmX PqcP+/xPdVA27JAe8ryTppVxB210KViMY/x2Tcw2SGB98+7lFRCTk1JQsDd4gebXuW7R fKzmbc06UZCtOAjkXOpJM/piZSGhpdLlX3z8ICob4/9ULjE5ovAstARBom6ps3U6d4+p +XU3YwvRjJ+Dh5rMsv8L5DfXIJiI9bMQmbAQS5UGR77MFxXBa65WCgoAdjlI0jhiNU6A VytAj2WGZwZs3g+Yk0eFV3Nj2AZhkQBvHMGMqZd7tumalC7WyIlYXIg5/UKOnOqwPuC5 h+dw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=sktAqcvf6MvwwV8+GbgGKBvghIV7QXyaR29z2Y6Nsug=; b=j3NGImfdPc2bZfMH6weSXa+6THOFLZUvcxetolGSRSTQRXANgNQYuLwLD3PpoWc9gS JpHijnP6/B74y1wUUO0kYQX/bhItQqrROBiHPWqbm3PXsMZgfdRWcDEXO3/dKDfFiN2K vHrntAPEza8dIDGjOSj8AIannvPBjpGr+TeBuUoWUL+zEjr+VqGxfxk6ub5BNWHoWflk AhJfNxsOVFAJ/FyG26DjI4vzLVu4VvOJpe0f4/B42suWbsixDWolOP6tk19T9P38Kso/ bsi6gtzgKUD2l+OXoutYT1BYtiGubqh/1iH3sNhmc1RY22iuSsY9vbfjwN5JXx0xEgL0 rN5w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW9Zy7cKlQE3TNGezBGun4hVQ0tIbYLBfjErOd74bjBOcWS5k+E 2tb1/sp6Cj9/8af5yBBGLZ0GPmg1 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw+eAJ398iMynwk2n9u55WqNopZRfdyla+AX4/XKq5nWVgVImSiY1KovqKuKocpSU7r24BTog== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:83c2:: with SMTP id u2mr21310699ior.288.1556113272515; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 06:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ZSuraski10L2 (212.199.177.70.static.012.net.il. [212.199.177.70]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w4sm6326563ioa.38.2019.04.24.06.41.10 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Apr 2019 06:41:11 -0700 (PDT) To: "'PHP internals'" References: <0ec42fa9-77d1-a203-8425-e72fdd5071f3@korulczyk.pl> <06473788-a34b-f041-36e6-31d19d8dda4c@cubiclesoft.com> <59cafbfb-2bb0-468c-458f-74bcac780e0f@korulczyk.pl> <004c01d4f09f$880ac320$98204960$@roze.lv> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:41:08 +0300 Message-ID: <004401d4faa3$60f83700$22e8a500$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQKWYMbL3wXLTWQ3PVae8RfPqaXsqgJlPMGNAWrs/XwBfwzR+AIrnLXmAaJYrH0BY1DBjKR0f6RQ Content-Language: en-il Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags From: vsuraski@gmail.com FWIW, I think it's a bad decision, made against the thoughts of clear majority = of core developers - and for hardly a good reason. I believe it = illustrates very well why we need to properly define our voting = eligibility rules, and I hope someone would be up to the challenge of = tackling it (I decided not to pursue it further after the 'abolish' = RFC(s)). A 68% majority which barely clears the 2/3 requirements for something as = fundamental as that - with so many core devs against it - we'll deserve = all the criticism that will be coming our way in 7.4/8.0 from end users = wondering why we needlessly broke their apps and made migration a bit = more of a headache. My 2c. Zeev -----Original Message----- From: G. P. B. =20 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 2:29 PM To: PHP internals Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags Hello Internal, The two weeks of voting have now ended. The results are 38 for and 18 against (total 56) for the primary vote to = deprecate PHP's short open tag in PHP 7.4. This passes in favor with 68%. The results are 42 for and 15 against (total 57) for the secondary vote = to remove PHP's short open tag in PHP 8. This passes in favor with 74%. Thanks for everyone who voted on this issue. Best regards George P. Banyard >