Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105247 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65594 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2019 19:40:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ot1-f53.google.com) (209.85.210.53) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2019 19:40:50 -0000 Received: by mail-ot1-f53.google.com with SMTP id o74so5810929ota.3 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 09:38:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3na/JaP3ttCeViDzi5DLdWnqpb/M0Ig7V2aD1Bzz248=; b=URp3k3piUJdQYCJTz1myXYUoYYILVLMov8BPHVzfzAerlgAN0Hcda1rMZi0tGHcthe kXZfiEBrFzTlSTR6wzE+qeCglEOoymZ1z+O5miArQmW0pzQ3g7hCyg7PKTBbWukTXm9b sohiL9HSl+Fzw6kDOFHCg3HbWsi2MPY+MMQA1B1wjVmQZRW+yfl7onS3LQDImAuvqsVw NQw1mIscWajqsdxzKuDsc7W5JCicT4lmfVLNVNRhytxAXtaNPGCKfT0fcIUgjvrUrwrb Y6JgOnQ/mZtUNEtpV6DWJz2v8tMlbDDShq1k4voWNDqmSpEuqAef6qTGYm1OovSdLp2S /DkA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3na/JaP3ttCeViDzi5DLdWnqpb/M0Ig7V2aD1Bzz248=; b=GzF5zkUWyvpA/GsSKWvXwpAWA63BxyJqrhKQ8o5a37k/4uX86lnWCPurhBCl7EsiP6 kwetQ7R9gDHH2p08p0kSgdGmmsCMFRO6QFcJj/4oYqYyS2o9hyTe5aerWyr4WcCRVchu NSfV8wgulFM5uqsQf8LeQIhigrrFQG23tO831lgAl2i4geV3wjgQuHlQo3niTG2q1EC1 SDKZxJleu0kJ1qPmSs67Xrq2e5VR/n9fiHKyDk3Pl/859zHhpmoJHDxP/DO2HHs4RjME aU/Gy8Xi3Fc1+P0BWvE9gVBcJTXe7Cd5LgJ0+Coto7wuxMRHWoQpqIIl8kvtcaLrFX3m Nfzg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXgbIix5nG1ERsOGc9n0r8vlpmyNsYu9RfDANU5/F5XClt+uG4j HJSqplGTaa1McU8JdrRAAF/uie9XE5MAB1rlKWA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzwHobeEYk/8lBwBGLjiPHWA926x6CipDKf/UAUfVSGRKqfE9golOPLY+SZ3F6tvP5DsQa2Hju3Op1Wb3zFOog= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:600f:: with SMTP id h15mr34404712otj.103.1555000695449; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 09:38:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <582b57dc-42a0-582b-9471-2ede97ba584a@telia.com> <9C232925-ECA1-4DB3-91A5-FE76C3BA1F4A@koalephant.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 17:38:03 +0100 Message-ID: To: Benjamin Morel Cc: "M. W. Moe" , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Arrow functions / short closures From: robehickman@gmail.com (Robert Hickman) @M. W. Moe If you don't like the java-isms you can ignore them to a large extent, which I do. However in doing so you're going against the grain and will end up writing a lot of stuff yourself. I do find it weird how PHP has morphed so drastically from it's origins and also wander why. If people wanted a Java-esque language, why not use Java in the first place? This discussion is off topic. On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:15, Benjamin Morel wro= te: > > > why? if voicing reasonable criticisms is bothering you; then you should > do something else in life; > > because engineering is built on this `very` concept; > > You're very welcome to challenge the "java impurities" that have been a > foundation of the language for 15 years=E2=80=94although you may better i= nvest your > own time by switching to another language that's already closer to what y= ou > expect. > > But calling people pigs when they disagree with you is not what I'd call > reasonable criticism. > > > I am not in the apex or any emotional trend; it does not interest me. > > Oh that's exactly the impression you've left so far.