Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105242 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43250 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2019 18:18:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-lf1-f47.google.com) (209.85.167.47) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2019 18:18:38 -0000 Received: by mail-lf1-f47.google.com with SMTP id h18so4979610lfj.11 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:16:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=EOlie8wuRYqXTls0aVuMJKRVtUgcpbh+s1OZE5FRlgo=; b=foITvymkWSUXA/IdwJ9KD0Bh2/nDxjHFk3nbSyO3Rtj1ccdKtACGIMSItfAEp9cai7 OHDQdWiazGH/X9FBAnvyvdGp5++1CjU8OhFfPDv+UXhGusuj4wywsHw8pjDa+dsmfsX8 Oeo7FB8bNNpEGkbQenBwB/wsJRo3mkN6hE5hyA2faB+4k+NCtQQU9aNsiHUOxlITH6bb 3oZDzvhzrxBBJgEmtBMJceqGp2TELwHsrLFzUot+QVnZrwahGcdN6ExKN3xHA4f5LKwP eyLYTJMqwZa6UvQokDUhv+k6PB6qvpBPiQAjVDxTzbdA2fajyCcL2w6mUTMfpY34y7pW r+QQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EOlie8wuRYqXTls0aVuMJKRVtUgcpbh+s1OZE5FRlgo=; b=tCmBYdvaLLMHYjMLHjkzNj4STgB0zcP+lbh7VVGJU2YPTtdhe+p/arqKUrfIVciPMn OTFR8+ZhHtBG0YkTTbXllTAfr3yCn1X5EoJ0HeaXOlWYcC/oSOpBbU9HABfX4q5oWQGP FcsFjxcnbf8j6GtCeDxcpisoGJ7YJ0xdup00U/09W49XRvpJEnvAMmI05wxpD0VEguxO Bn5rTbc2NhdVL/lZd44CZTTPrjvdDn6dIYXKVaJcHA4U8VCrjgGRNsQ4Y78gzlhoYQfQ QxMm7TXtGHBBOurPkBJY9xuk1iM3k8rvE/tyER+gvMFVEP993am/MmNRqkRdkKvbZJpX z0pw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUdcS5FExcCdYzDZ+zReia1OYsIYA7GRA7WgjJTW3viT3KFaIbv gc4duxRp45BJBUU/9DAZ/bXKAB++Kv3FXd7mzD/iLdW+iPg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx0IAG/7pMb28nqur+idRI+hHHbU3Z/rr0UadFgn18oXXevGOB2fnD8vrKydsL+7FzzhWV6kr+A14znqR8eO8U= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:52a6:: with SMTP id r6mr26534727lfm.27.1554995762215; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:16:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <582b57dc-42a0-582b-9471-2ede97ba584a@telia.com> <9C232925-ECA1-4DB3-91A5-FE76C3BA1F4A@koalephant.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:15:53 -0700 Message-ID: To: Benjamin Morel Cc: Stephen Reay , Robert Hickman , Rowan Collins , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000008be93058642aa74" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Arrow functions / short closures From: mo.mu.wss@gmail.com ("M. W. Moe") --00000000000008be93058642aa74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @Benjamin Morel why? if voicing reasonable criticisms is bothering you; then you should do something else in life; because engineering is built on this `very` concept; I am not in the apex or any emotional trend; it does not interest me. You have a good day! On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 7:58 AM Benjamin Morel wrote: > > yes php still suffers of > > it's java-like-transform; historically named php5; > > repeating the same design traps almost 20 years after it; > > Maybe you could just switch to another language then, and bother another > mailing list? > > > On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:51, M. W. Moe wrote: > >> @Stephen Reay >> >> i) Good for you!, if you say so must be the truth; yes php still suffers >> of >> it's java-like-transform; historically named php5; >> repeating the same design traps almost 20 years after it; and in the >> real-life the most interesting inquiries about the language evolution ar= e >> blocked by this fact and make tedious what would look like very simple >> changes. >> >> ii) BTW, that's you making personal experience an absolute rule and >> projecting your own limitations as a valuable intellectual argument; , n= ot >> myself; my remark was just an illustration. >> >> You have a good day! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 9:23 PM Stephen Reay >> wrote: >> >> > >> > > On 11 Apr 2019, at 00:32, M. W. Moe wrote: >> > > >> > > I have never seen ML programmers being improductive; >> > >> > Great. I=E2=80=99ve never seen a pig crash a plane, therefore all pilo= ts should >> be >> > pigs? >> > >> > Given your previous comments regarding removing =E2=80=9Cjava impuriti= es=E2=80=9D it=E2=80=99s >> > hard to take anything you suggest seriously. >> > >> > >> > >> > --00000000000008be93058642aa74--