Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105241 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38192 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2019 18:01:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-it1-f182.google.com) (209.85.166.182) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2019 18:01:09 -0000 Received: by mail-it1-f182.google.com with SMTP id 139so9966663ita.4 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 07:58:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=UQlczcw+P2QtUV9kwaC4JSyRGW50jIY0IeH+w4XGaDo=; b=GJ6oRYJfxp8wKeqwXqHtYYLlOzPJv4mlzZmnZ6AufpiYL4IK9eOaO3nfjEtaXyFKLD 9KQBc/SsBEQc/E4KP76yI4n87D1/b2C5xPQaFKAKwgzmAd9EZM3XMxVIjF8LT8r/FMD1 jOPrQz2yVG4j4V6mNsF5kIEkWEybuGbofpFJVwrqY8RrVtjMl3dJWtxYxOV4YjoLyYP+ 7CNheWKPie4GG79OnEwkNQBzAPKOsSEIMSxk391thnwaNEfuFvtvDy5Ct2Dq8NHnkO1a lVrD7hJ48fzgWF//jN3XLcvc0cAep2+BTqp3fb1gfhjv8hnxcS/t2GXq0KLGhTEuELQU nLmg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=UQlczcw+P2QtUV9kwaC4JSyRGW50jIY0IeH+w4XGaDo=; b=GxZ/yCo77LiMb1zBPQ+KRLnNnFokC+4RfXVKlghaE/m5Un5UTydtncj56d5pKH0Hqg dUEge574UVGW/uMSwih/vyONrSmZdReiCZ2IFTo3Gn4r6nEs7IdBMV2lcqivDh4dB6VB Btma8ssJN4eSwGcwqY5cLDGYe/eqnD6TG9PM51jxO4uKZOJDHk5r4tLm/JgVhVhwjDzg RbXgzOHRM7eoP3nrW5+ej3KnsEjMNiMtaDxzCzuc2W3uhoAlJ7OWmt5Rc/lhMXnu6Wj0 55SK1YOuGvhBC+HjBgQV2LNmR+91bOVC0PBuOQHFoe9kimKaTV5w6eoqFWHusTeOQDmR zxXw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWc6ThzzXGa16hrsfs4VsSwLdOPyjgQKUy78W5/QGShRH8ewzto O0KJqm/v1LiT1N4uL6vtouX23THufrMkZM72tns= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzkeSkVOqaMTNa0HFotKIBuc6VccIxwike1Y/IHAIRoCfJpLXCbsQUJnmmVFD1JfF2Yj/+q7NSiIbHpkSPZWAM= X-Received: by 2002:a24:52c2:: with SMTP id d185mr8044477itb.94.1554994713764; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 07:58:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <582b57dc-42a0-582b-9471-2ede97ba584a@telia.com> <9C232925-ECA1-4DB3-91A5-FE76C3BA1F4A@koalephant.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 16:58:21 +0200 Message-ID: To: "M. W. Moe" Cc: Stephen Reay , Robert Hickman , Rowan Collins , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008aa9b60586426b1c" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Arrow functions / short closures From: benjamin.morel@gmail.com (Benjamin Morel) --0000000000008aa9b60586426b1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > yes php still suffers of > it's java-like-transform; historically named php5; > repeating the same design traps almost 20 years after it; Maybe you could just switch to another language then, and bother another mailing list? On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:51, M. W. Moe wrote: > @Stephen Reay > > i) Good for you!, if you say so must be the truth; yes php still suffers = of > it's java-like-transform; historically named php5; > repeating the same design traps almost 20 years after it; and in the > real-life the most interesting inquiries about the language evolution are > blocked by this fact and make tedious what would look like very simple > changes. > > ii) BTW, that's you making personal experience an absolute rule and > projecting your own limitations as a valuable intellectual argument; , no= t > myself; my remark was just an illustration. > > You have a good day! > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 9:23 PM Stephen Reay > wrote: > > > > > > On 11 Apr 2019, at 00:32, M. W. Moe wrote: > > > > > > I have never seen ML programmers being improductive; > > > > Great. I=E2=80=99ve never seen a pig crash a plane, therefore all pilot= s should > be > > pigs? > > > > Given your previous comments regarding removing =E2=80=9Cjava impuritie= s=E2=80=9D it=E2=80=99s > > hard to take anything you suggest seriously. > > > > > > > --0000000000008aa9b60586426b1c--