Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30669 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2019 17:23:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-wr1-f49.google.com) (209.85.221.49) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2019 17:23:59 -0000 Received: by mail-wr1-f49.google.com with SMTP id k11so2819439wro.5 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 07:18:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=MgEGcrAvke9iFEAg/70kV4J5EaSHmqDUd3x1qzlWIhs=; b=NaSxZWVTBbkwWr/mAQal0h9HtridwDPnhC3/KLyXD1kVxH4O2KUtd6jwDgns0Q/C92 vegMvULqvCtq7du0DVfgw3psKnGzfumzlGSC9exfJFRIeacHcbEUlJA/o0VpCYbPob7S Ix4IxiccO5kqBY/tlYqFK+dwIgU8YD1RpjzCXR38Yeq9/cMXqhxgq7no6/aRNIMMQTA3 CLLAK4ruzOgZuSuh1KZflO0C7PcBvvnUL/HaC2ObKc1Wy9G/yloRMvwaq3/xyVR0phf4 LxOcbMTjl7JPrzLWbu9Xyrmo+FtDZqE3DB7/r9DJXRM++4pMGH/vr3W+x1NYqvrw69J0 HEBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=MgEGcrAvke9iFEAg/70kV4J5EaSHmqDUd3x1qzlWIhs=; b=g1gl6lHp5s3Xi1ZKnE91VzH4CDqeuYsjrNeWuk9S2KBP2blBMgqy7bUvFMCbPuSShe qKR/BJ4Of+bmQVCPivCulN0VJ82aIOilDNkqm5SVqxAa+EjPQrRK5hY4eMeFabh+rXZ4 jTKbX/OOKXji1wQ0Ux1fG3zupbKr/X2ki1WafBE/uKSCtTv4QVZo2vvguuXMVlLDLQ0M Q0dmry1Ia+cHFNvq/JVgkeylfRhPIQ1W9ZfjOMer2e2VjzbrUs6LZ2vwJAgBRLBTkqYc Rp6Mp8J30gxugn4H9r1d0/lQxZDZ+Fk+ZIvcV2bR9a2sNiLncM4CuAiJ3pLsEpPdBG6V ZiXA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW7JNBWvZpRTFM+Y1VDQlCcESYso8aURJELYjrMA26LjdBMBrby 61Ppx++HaXZMYd4zhlgOugQwcR+0wn6c+//eZbg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwvtBQbNeWZh42Pq6BzmzroqcJGKsZT8JmZhgatgJqZU3zsNkJnxJxRHCNRIeoUV7QY3mQl+zLhXR2DEcn/vqo= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f1c7:: with SMTP id z7mr33074627wro.274.1553869087913; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 07:18:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 16:17:41 +0200 Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: Dmitry Stogov , "release-managers@php.net" , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000033ccc05853c5700" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 8 Preview Releases From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks) --000000000000033ccc05853c5700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'd like to add that as the userland developer, it would be nice to be able to build JIT against an active branch (a.k.a PHP 7.4), cause if PHP 8 brings enough changes, it would not be realistic to fix our apps to be compatible with PHP 8 months or years away from actual release. =D0=BF=D1=82, 29 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80. 2019 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 15:58, Joe Watkins= : > Hi Dmitry, > > I'm not suggesting we do it right now, I'm suggesting we look at the > planning of it right now as it deviates from our normal release cycle. > > At the moment we should just consider how we want it to work, including > when it should start ... > > Cheers > Joe > > On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 14:42, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > I think, PHP-8 preview is too early. > > > > We even didn't freeze PHP-7.4 yet, and PHP-8 didn't get any new major > > features (may be I forgot something) only deprecations and some interna= l > > improvements > > > > . > > > > According to JIT, it's probably going to be changed a lot in the neares= t > > future. > > > > > > Thanks. Dmitry. > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Joe Watkins > > *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 3:40:04 PM > > *To:* release-managers@php.net; PHP internals; Dmitry Stogov > > *Subject:* PHP 8 Preview Releases > > > > Morning internals, > > > > Since we now have a result for JIT and we know it will be included in P= HP > > 8, I think it's time to visit the idea brought up in discussion to have > > preview releases of PHP 8. > > > > I'm interested in hearing what kind of schedules we think are going to = be > > useful - it's tempting to say let's track PHP-7.4 releases, possibly > with a > > bi-monthly interval, but I'm not sure if that may be too soon, or too > slow, > > or too fast. > > > > Thoughts please (especially from Dmitry) ? > > > > Cheers > > Joe > > > > > > > --=20 Arv=C4=ABds Godjuks +371 26 851 664 arvids.godjuks@gmail.com Skype: psihius Telegram: @psihius https://t.me/psihius --000000000000033ccc05853c5700--