Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:105004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20799 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2019 16:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO NAM05-BY2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) (40.107.71.91) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2019 16:48:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=RWSoftware.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-zend-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=gB6ktbcI+FDHJihPhILzqPAnh575ZTJvD3alPPv4ato=; b=1MsitZy6yEUa0QNmXHtPK8cVNZzaHxfWwpmCJrJBv0o1DrZhU/rTQwdYyzbcQOA27ZMSU9oCRonuHheo11rtBAr2ECKmlgcGMC5AzWauVpCN3jtAmYR28Lkd70kMxqrrjTfg4YtyVMo+TLrFDRZuxcyniX5X2uKcXy7tmLwW4o0= Received: from MN2PR02MB5775.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (20.179.98.90) by MN2PR02MB5885.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (20.179.99.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.1750.17; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:42:44 +0000 Received: from MN2PR02MB5775.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::4563:1b57:1016:69c6]) by MN2PR02MB5775.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::4563:1b57:1016:69c6%6]) with mapi id 15.20.1750.014; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:42:43 +0000 To: Joe Watkins , "release-managers@php.net" , PHP internals Thread-Topic: PHP 8 Preview Releases Thread-Index: AQHU5iyR3iPw28l9cUmELWQOyTV38qYinASd Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:42:43 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=dmitry@zend.com; x-originating-ip: [212.232.72.197] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 1b9f28f2-13b8-4f4f-7877-08d6b44c6bdc x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(2390118)(7020095)(4652040)(8989299)(4534185)(4627221)(201703031133081)(201702281549075)(8990200)(5600127)(711020)(4605104)(2017052603328)(7153060)(7193020);SRVR:MN2PR02MB5885; x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: MN2PR02MB5885: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-forefront-prvs: 0991CAB7B3 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019020)(136003)(39850400004)(376002)(346002)(366004)(396003)(199004)(189003)(4744005)(97736004)(54896002)(55016002)(14454004)(66066001)(68736007)(81156014)(9686003)(8676002)(81166006)(33656002)(53936002)(2906002)(316002)(478600001)(76176011)(19627405001)(110136005)(6506007)(2501003)(6606003)(71190400001)(8936002)(71200400001)(6436002)(26005)(53546011)(25786009)(102836004)(186003)(105586002)(86362001)(3846002)(6116002)(5660300002)(476003)(486006)(229853002)(74316002)(6246003)(446003)(106356001)(7736002)(7116003)(52536014)(11346002)(99286004)(256004)(7696005);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:MN2PR02MB5885;H:MN2PR02MB5775.namprd02.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;SPF:None;LANG:en;PTR:InfoNoRecords;A:1;MX:1; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: zend.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: MGj+aRW/NBziRTad2bvlOa7WdXkljZXOTni8YUcFpSMcgjL5gjT0VfIREmf720mtxQYpx9WTSky2DGyIl0z82EwRmdBrY2cBBxX2YL6T5xKgiRuhyXkX91FRGEeSU7k1xzsR0bsqPmUJNKRzHq4KCIlblvhUCvNKW2oEC6mj85eMrNnOTARbiyCA2MpfE9GmW2qZIL8rpq5aCpBPFOSOK8QpPDEf9BgAr6nyOdSpVB5yz1xOP2TeOkFbhEiiZ1Wt73ZtJt/1Vf8/X+PFExTHFqGODbVTZC5h0ReLQkndj8LT309FgtFjqJ+APIcNEddiQL0KB24qkX8AasBI3WoFka3Nm0GYHLSyTFv1V9PIv+fTmoJcIOjly0YlPQ7Iu/4XGCwvJmRUQAyLwrQ+Nf2FNdlpS0M3IN9++hjGziZTkDc= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_MN2PR02MB57755676351373E490D0CD32BF5A0MN2PR02MB5775namp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: zend.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 1b9f28f2-13b8-4f4f-7877-08d6b44c6bdc X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 29 Mar 2019 13:42:43.8267 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 32210298-c08b-4829-8097-6b12c025a892 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MN2PR02MB5885 Subject: Re: PHP 8 Preview Releases From: dmitry@zend.com (Dmitry Stogov) --_000_MN2PR02MB57755676351373E490D0CD32BF5A0MN2PR02MB5775namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joe, I think, PHP-8 preview is too early. We even didn't freeze PHP-7.4 yet, and PHP-8 didn't get any new major featu= res (may be I forgot something) only deprecations and some internal improve= ments . According to JIT, it's probably going to be changed a lot in the nearest fu= ture. Thanks. Dmitry. ________________________________ From: Joe Watkins Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 3:40:04 PM To: release-managers@php.net; PHP internals; Dmitry Stogov Subject: PHP 8 Preview Releases Morning internals, Since we now have a result for JIT and we know it will be included in PHP 8= , I think it's time to visit the idea brought up in discussion to have prev= iew releases of PHP 8. I'm interested in hearing what kind of schedules we think are going to be u= seful - it's tempting to say let's track PHP-7.4 releases, possibly with a = bi-monthly interval, but I'm not sure if that may be too soon, or too slow,= or too fast. Thoughts please (especially from Dmitry) ? Cheers Joe --_000_MN2PR02MB57755676351373E490D0CD32BF5A0MN2PR02MB5775namp_--