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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 13:47:41 +0100
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To: Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Firebird - Who are WE ...
From: krakjoe@gmail.com (Joe Watkins)

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You say lots of people are relying on it, but it is only you who speaks in
support of it. The thing is broken, it does bad things, there is no
maintainer, and not a huge userbase.

It's not the case that we are just kicking it out for convenience, it is
the case that we cannot keep it in phpsrc with no maintainer and no
userbase, and no good reason for it to be in phpsrc.

The thing is more or less abandoned, and at this point, since it needs work
and a maintainer, the best thing to do is move it to PECL to free it from
the release cycle of PHP so that anyone may work on it and start creating
releases at their own pace, one that suits the community you say are using
it.

Cheers
Joe

On Sat, 23 Mar 2019, 13:36 Lester Caine, <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote:

> On 23/03/2019 12:05, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
> > 80% of this posting is more a personal blog of how you (not "we") have
> > been interacting with the PHP community (as in the PHP.net community
> > specifically). What you should have done was to reply to either me or
> > Dan in the RFC thread with a one liner: "I mean 'We' as in X", that
> > would have been it.
>
> We as in the people who rally around when we need to to protect the
> things we think are important. There are more people today reliant on
> elements like Firebird than there were 20+ years ago and to be honest if
> you kick the interbase driver into PECL we will carry on using it
> anyway, but YES it needs some love - from someone who can navigate
> around just how resources have been changed in PHP7. The sort of
> cooperation we had while keeping several extensions available on windows
> in the past. I'm perfectly happy that I am not the only person using PHP
> with Firebird .... and reliant on it continuing to be available!
>
> Now to get back to working out why Nikita's patch does not work in
> 7.2.16 ...
>
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