Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:104889 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16066 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2019 15:53:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-oi1-f195.google.com) (209.85.167.195) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2019 15:53:42 -0000 Received: by mail-oi1-f195.google.com with SMTP id j132so3748807oib.2 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 05:46:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9uQzC/WLAWZo61aoxwDu5bNIREtJWvKXaYT+/vghOG0=; b=K/zBG1wS1lDvpfszsx24DZkI6XGrcHQQQmgdTBqV8T97TFH96TjhWY80s9o6D2hUbA onsZZKhIhNjqzQG18AJBVE3AA8Zk+Hnch4GsTEgmVJybMpu/OJSMZkEv2KtOsCqwVtw4 xgy1/j575sHY6GTmipEeGoMkwz4w3eKjXw8KN4LbWyHOJaAsTi0Df6eGT0Lw0MEU9Zmt Lc4tMWZ9MNx0mtuaNEKbyGKS+b5rBYoUQhaYxKHfIYdtM4DB9LXwXe9RGdOG1U7cTqk4 Gp91eWG+6+TjUKHtDL/K9n8/ol1veUdQHER8H/QtYlofRzAI/rUo2s0hlxT4eaLDtqTr xZ+A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV1y+r1pFoQz9wcWHMtm+o4iL58bKqx9Wlbw07aS5kn49SH5HKe iXk2ftqxYkDEkHGCglfiy4MD+MqdtY4F2khJhBb9+E8K X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzbWNObmwo0zYbzYf5c+eZ7RRr6W++YMzOXivk3kq4aH1egPdFPmAYV4dY1dULvZMJ5IwnZ5BGE+uefxBiBi4o= X-Received: by 2002:aca:e548:: with SMTP id c69mr5427570oih.125.1553345180125; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 05:46:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2f7acce4-69dd-d98b-6f86-1110e3589c4b@lsces.co.uk> <14e38736-deee-1930-e4eb-21651beebb13@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <14e38736-deee-1930-e4eb-21651beebb13@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 14:46:07 +0200 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Firebird - Who are WE ... From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) Hi Den l=C3=B8r. 23. mar. 2019 kl. 14.36 skrev Lester Caine : > We as in the people who rally around when we need to to protect the > things we think are important. There are more people today reliant on > elements like Firebird than there were 20+ years ago and to be honest if > you kick the interbase driver into PECL we will carry on using it > anyway, but YES it needs some love - from someone who can navigate > around just how resources have been changed in PHP7. The sort of > cooperation we had while keeping several extensions available on windows > in the past. I'm perfectly happy that I am not the only person using PHP > with Firebird .... and reliant on it continuing to be available! The point of putting it in PECL is for you to keep using it, if we (We as in the PHP Development Team) did not care, it would have probably have been removed entirely, which I personally do not believe is fair. It is fine that you rally together, however it does not mean that we (We as in the PHP Development Team) will change our stance unless you bring someone to take over the extension. To me personally, I will not halt the start of the vote unless there is someone who stands up to take over the extension and posts some relevant patches for it within the next 2 weeks (ish) to get it working. We (we as in the PHP Development Team), will gladly do what we can to welcome that aid, but after all this back and fourth and lack of extension maintainer, I do not want to take the risk of repeating the same loop once more, there has to be a limit. > Now to get back to working out why Nikita's patch does not work in > 7.2.16 ... Obviously because the patch was made for PHP 7.3. Hint: If a macro/function is not available in 7.2, then look at how it is implemented in 7.3 and migrate it or see how other functions who do similar functionality works and port it. --=20 regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net