Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:104877 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65509 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2019 19:33:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-it1-f175.google.com) (209.85.166.175) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2019 19:33:50 -0000 Received: by mail-it1-f175.google.com with SMTP id 139so4193737ita.4 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:26:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=H4I8/wm/19Body2hbUn27Faws1A3G2onuKkgs1zg8sw=; b=Ed4PVJmp0+3Pm7PijDrk/D+zur21wQ0x7sA+Yq0oFu8g51vLSO1JiW2QrVrY49xF/Q evtvBePBPTEiOkh5pEXUhwMTfBmiMv2q6Yj/30IZ145HhHEKc6BP2VmVXMPNtTiB6t3m dsjqt3JR0smmIWGvupGDeIiudihNLizkLAyci2WFpP2Xq3EuDM7omEd0hEdiSzo5WS8p GlIrtZezv46RoA/epm6X/Yk6DTAx8YLvK41+gH0ZOP1r51RNMUuepC7ShqLqFSEZpTH7 8Fzq68b6VW3AzU6pJcOxvZJclkgY33Glb7SBUTb4btP1O88H9zm2dqlfcy7A/xB81VyR ftsA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=H4I8/wm/19Body2hbUn27Faws1A3G2onuKkgs1zg8sw=; b=dn2hk/CJPKIkT4vJGIxep+g9U1NMuByXgRrInHjVmXTr6Z31QUWh1UreP0BKUtxsIg 1l6psSoUvDkyCUO/ApzfeiUca88v4dRJALhUuy7JSGsinGJ6Eg+m8auVFk4fXxgvs6rT kJI74/40z+7ppi5pkTHjCrydKpuQn8cdBPKI1Q+hopZanQqucmHKVw1025UXvB+bju7V W1S+MfPwZaNasvtMtV5W2n1w5FVG/ZBXQ2dlkydbR5QMPG39zNOtFCoiIz/s1+WJ4vxi p3p+tvegHiUwV7W7/uvK/omkLBh06cPiB/v7cP+WOetU+ol/lFM2+/iE6g1RRxH/R3iE 4xoA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXlwCEaMfO67lG38RyzSgvmCRzkMuWi3L6neWmTPMff93CYqYIN 3Y0XRbr2YhuM1lYHw85RC1AXjTo9vP1VQzN44jahI7SYEvo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzLJL8ILYP2oZrSlGJ6GfWBloewIO6VmgYgEJWhBe23bbnrbYvyXVllYYi0/ru2zPMlJmCR9cpSHuUKdkXJFMY= X-Received: by 2002:a24:7542:: with SMTP id y63mr2035374itc.70.1553271973663; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:26:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <95e918c8-aaeb-d700-cc08-30f10a07162d@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <95e918c8-aaeb-d700-cc08-30f10a07162d@lsces.co.uk> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 17:25:56 +0100 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003ad94d0584b1508f" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Unbundle ext/interbase From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --0000000000003ad94d0584b1508f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 3:10 PM Lester Caine wrote: > On 22/03/2019 13:26, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > > G'day internals > > > > I'd like to start the discussion for the future of the ext/interbase > extension: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-and-remove-ext-interbase > > > > The rationale for pushing this extension out of the core is mentioned > > in the RFC. > > > > Unless there is any serious issues raised here, then I will put this > > into voting on Monday 8th of April, noon EET (which is a good two and > > a half weeks away). The intended voting period is set for 2 weeks, > > meaning if voting proceeds, the pools will be closed around Monday > > 22th of April, noon EET. > > It is not that we don't want to stand up and maintain it, it has been > impossible in recent years to get a handle on just what needs to be done > TO maintain it. The PDO extension is in a much worse state than the main > interbase one but both of them do their jobs as well as they can given > that in the case of PDO it can't handle the cross database transactions, > something that the main extension does quite happily. > > Personally I've been wasting time recently trying to keep alive sites > that are using MySQL and the main problem with MySQL is the one thing > that Firebird does nicely. Backup just runs as a secondary cron job > independent of PHP while MySQL is reliant on PHP and current backups on > some wordpress powered sites are failing because they run out of time or > memory. I've never had a problem with loosing data with Firebird while > I've had recover MySQL situations a few times in the last year! > > So all we are asking for is HELP with the code changes that result from > changes to the PHP API to keep this available. > Hi Lester, I've created a patch for https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=72175 (last comment), which seems to be the biggest open problem in the interbase extension. I'd appreciate it if you or someone else who uses firebird could test this. Nikita --0000000000003ad94d0584b1508f--