Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:104806 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13552 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2019 22:58:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO v-smtpout1.han.skanova.net) (81.236.60.154) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2019 22:58:44 -0000 Received: from [192.168.7.8] ([213.64.245.126]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id 6Kkkhrc1aSq0x6Kkkh3UEv; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:50:26 +0100 To: Sebastian Bergmann , PHP internals References: <2a08bdcd-b98c-1572-2aae-07af61a29a3e@gmx.de> <34920d43-2b90-507c-c96b-8a80a192c4c9@gmx.de> <56361e37-1c5d-244a-7f98-362a89e383ce@php.net> Message-ID: <1695f069-9d69-cc8f-2155-d680dc7f77fe@telia.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:50:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56361e37-1c5d-244a-7f98-362a89e383ce@php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHEFm8ZG0bor+M4Gvwr/tAWYXKhn9IriSRcAGLOjqtdkHT+zNGzzhZFNtzH0oaUOmq9h7KPzCsA/PnBpKcWovl45f2jjJP0i2rmdfmxJ1bsV7DmeHra1 nNy9hwCfczqQKVn6c72J40ZDVLkQ1fK2WU579uRYE+NCU//8OsPtgLR8TvIAGBttp+fsX3OspLsA8jhiuRyInwxcqYPqpTw4Sb4= Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 7.4 Release Manager Selection From: bjorn.x.larsson@telia.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Bj=c3=b6rn_Larsson?=) Den 2019-03-19 kl. 17:53, skrev Sebastian Bergmann: > Am 19.03.2019 um 17:43 schrieb Joe Watkins: >> At least I'd like someone to explain in detail why we should extend >> support >> for 7.4? > > Seconded. > For us the extended support of 5.6 has been very beneficial. Primarily for two reasons: - A large legacy code base that took time to fix. - Adaption of third-party tools takes time. For instance latest   version of smarty that we use, still gives error messages for   PHP 7.3 (a standard plugin). I don't expect the above to change going from 7.4 to 8.0. Of course it depends on the 8.0 features and BC breaks. Also looking at the 7.4 content it seems quite attractive! So given that we don't yet know uptake of 8.0, 7.4 could have a long lifespan. Another point is that when looking in the control panel for our server that incorporates PHP, 5.6.40 is listed as outdated. If it had been a year ago instead (no extended support ), then it would have felt weird since 5.6 has executed flawlessly in 2018 for us. Finally, given that the extended support for 5.6 has been quite a success, having the same for 7.4 seems prudent at this point in time. r//Björn L