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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 15:46:38 -0400 (EDT)
To: Mark Scholten <mark@streamservice.nl>
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Retiring PHP's Mirror Program
From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans)

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Hi,

The plan is to start rolling this out somewhere in the next two weeks,=20
pending solving the problem of not 404ing the xx.php.net URLs. What I=20
would like to do is, to 301 redirect these to the canonical URLs so that=20
search indexes etc can get updated over time. But, I don't quite know=20
where to host that service. Turning off the mirror scripts etc is going=20
to be trivial to do, and our CDN is already set-up to do php.net and=20
www.php.net (but doesn't get the later traffic yet). I think we want to=20
scale down our mirroring infrastructure alltogether, although I see a=20
use for companies being able to run internal mirrors. I do think we=20
should not have multiple rsync mirrors though. Let me know what you=20
think and your opinions are.

cheers,
Derick

On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, Mark Scholten wrote:

> Hello,
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> A timeline would be nice and information on if locally mirroring it (on a=
n internal hostname) will still be possible.
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> Also it would be nice to know if you will be contacting the rsync mirror =
maintainers and what you want to do with them.
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> I've said before and I will repeat again: let me know where I can help an=
d if possible I will.
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> Kind regards,
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> Mark Scholten
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Levi Morrison [mailto:levim@php.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 16:37
> > To: Derick Rethans
> > Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List; PHP Mirrors ML
> > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Retiring PHP's Mirror Program
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> > Any update on this? One commonly requested feature on the downloads
> > page can be implemented once the mirrors are gone, which is to
> > directly link to to the file (instead of a Choose a Mirror page).
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> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 9:28 AM Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > The PHP.net website has in the last 20 years made use of an extensive
> > > network of mirrors_ to make the PHP documentation available, and
> > > distribute source tarballs_. These mirrors have been maintained by
> > > members and companies in the PHP eco-system for many valuable years.
> > > However, the administration of the mirror system is often haphazard,
> > > with few contributors helping out=E2=80=94PHP is Open Source, and thi=
s is simply
> > > how these things can go.
> > >
> > > Maintaining the mirrors is now no longer sustainable, and also hinder=
s
> > > the take up of moving the PHP.net website fully to HTTPS. Because the
> > > PHP.net team has no access to the mirror servers, we also can't make
> > > sure the mirrors are up-to-date, and some mirrors are still running P=
HP
> > > 5.3 (actually, about 25% still run PHP 5.3!).
> > >
> > > It is likely no longer necessary to have a mirror system in place, as
> > > unlike 20 years ago, it is not nearly has hard as setting up a
> > > distributed cache system. As a matter of fact, some of the PHP.net we=
b
> > > site, through http://www.php.net/, already sits behind a Content
> > > Delivery Network (CDN) from Myra_, which is sponsored by long time PH=
P
> > > contributor Sascha Schumann.
> > >
> > > With these preliminaries out of the way, I would therefore like to
> > > announce the discontinuation of PHP.net's mirroring program. Instead =
of
> > > having mirrors, we are moving all of PHP.net to HTTPS (and get rid of
> > > https://secure.php.net), and move them behind Myra's CDN, with the
> > same
> > > local content delivery opportunities, but at significantly less
> > > administration requirements.
> > >
> > > In the next week or so, I will e-mail out a plan on which steps are
> > > necessary for this move. I'd be happy to hear any comments on when th=
e
> > > plan comes out.
> > >
> > > To end this email, I would very much like to thank all the mirror
> > > maintainers for their dedication, time, and bandwidth over all these
> > > years. Thanks!
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Derick
> > >
> > > .. _mirrors: http://php.net/mirrors.php
> > > .. _tarballs: http://uk3.php.net/downloads.php
> > > .. _Myra: https://myracloud.com/en/
> > >
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