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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecate short_open_tag ini directive?
From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=)

On Di, 2019-03-12 at 15:53 +0000, Rowan Collins wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 13:28, G. P. B. <george.banyard@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I was more going along the lines of removing short tags altogether
> > with the
> > ini setting as they are not available out of the box except if you
> > use a
> > special compile flag.
> > 
> 
> I don't really follow this reasoning: if we removed every feature
> which wasn't enabled out of the box, we wouldn't need an INI file at
> all.

Which would be good - as all those things make writing portable code
harder.

   $ echo '<?xml ?>' | php

Is a valid program, which will behave vastly different based on the ini
setting.

Of course for some things having a config is good (error levels
arguably, extension loading, ...) but for the raw language syntax and
behavior not so.

johannes