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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 00:21:12 +0800
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] New custom object serialization mechanism
From: me@jhdxr.com (=?utf-8?b?Q0hVIFpoYW93ZWk=?=)

I voted no for similar reason. I understand the problem we have, but I =
really don't like the idea that just introduce a new method, well =
actually a pair of new methods, to solve this problem, without any plan =
to stop userland developer from the wrong use case. The deprecating plan =
also sounds too rush and aggressive for me. =
Serialize/unserialize/__sleep/__wakeup are wide used, and deprecating or =
removing them will be a huge BC break.=20

PHP 8 is a revolution version IMO, so if a RFC targeting PHP 8 propose =
to deprecate or removing those 4 methods, I will vote yes. But at the =
same time, I'd like to ask, is it possible to show warnings only if =
potential broken detected, e.g. serialize with reference, or parent:: =
serialize is called.

Regards,
CHU Zhaowei

-----Original Message-----
From: Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com>=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 8:35 PM
To: Sebastian Bergmann <sebastian@php.net>
Cc: PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] New custom object serialization mechanism

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:18 PM Sebastian Bergmann <sebastian@php.net> =
wrote:

> Am 01.03.2019 um 16:08 schrieb Nikita Popov:
> > I have opened voting on
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/custom_object_serialization.
> > The vote will be open until 2019-03-15.
>
> I voted "No" because this adds a third mechanism without a concrete=20
> plan to phase out the existing two mechanisms.
>

Good concern. How do people feel about deprecating Serializable in 7.4 =
and removing in 8.0 (not as part of this RFC but a separate one)? The =
deprecation warning would only be thrown if Serializable is implemented =
but the class has no __serialize/__unserialize. The timeline would be a =
bit aggressive in that we'd be introducing the replacement in the same =
release as the deprecation, something I'd usually try to avoid.

Nikita