Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:104415 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26164 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2019 19:15:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tbjjbihbhebb.turbo-smtp.net) (199.187.174.11) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2019 19:15:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=php.net; s=turbo-smtp; x=1550764746; h=DomainKey-Signature:Received: Received:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date: Message-ID:Subject:To:Cc:Content-Type; bh=x9jQtWE7/s2tasSjUMm6/U +56Z1XLY5a0NMN4PZn0DI=; b=jrjwSGM9g0lUAPXLDMeHBTmhTsTfmSaJmVZjlm mWqp8l7ED7o4hM2IRZcw0IwFYT4or5fb2d+gcyfoLpPMMT/PngzJRLUcTBC1ANQt 66p6CoDpudoij4WDzVlL/JXTZ5g6Zl7VZeA4KCX7FkV4jwobgWGmWXxugXNtV4l5 7SgwM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=turbo-smtp; d=php.net; h=Received:Received:X-TurboSMTP-Tracking:X-Gm-Message-State:X-Google-Smtp-Source:X-Received:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:X-Gmail-Original-Message-Id:Message-ID:Subject:To:Cc:Content-Type; b=nmlh4Lyr/+2XGE+Zuvx3izt6gd9QZR2aXPm3bBmakVHUEyyzcFYu48BIc0KN0i 2GkK/omeMjC54zwib8I+lY3EDFQYBhbAQzFx5DzNAoo1G2HrOJQYDsiowCcXFybs pCr0Pn6VmsgVzMhGeHTynNju/KnHBTS+Nd7iwjQiziWs0=; Received: (qmail 13634 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2019 15:59:06 -0000 Received: X-TurboSMTP-Tracking: 4853103503 X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuZ9XDmgrpzhdGzxSSPm1MLYWgGPCK4x4RbvTYWViYCcI2buRCzX u7bmFynFFSW/pITTiujwjFCAyYKAGqoEx4JxmfI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3Ib+IDWqaj84rNaQ0JC5Mf139DET33l8+RXtboA0nuKY6AIRuod4dbUlJtDfNRmI3nRcZ4q6BQC50p18IOc8r5Q= X-Received: by 2002:a37:9906:: with SMTP id b6mr3387577qke.208.1550159945960; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 07:59:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:58:55 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-Id: Message-ID: To: "Christoph M. Becker" Cc: Joe Watkins , "Anatol Belski (ab@php.net)" , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ec93710581dcbc56" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: ZTS improvement idea From: zeev@php.net (Zeev Suraski) --000000000000ec93710581dcbc56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 5:47 PM Christoph M. Becker wrote: > On 14.02.2019 at 12:56, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:26 AM Joe Watkins wrote: > > > >> The ZTS build is very commonly used in Windows today > > > > Any idea why? > > windows.php.net: > > | With Apache you have to use the Thread Safe (TS) versions of PHP. > That's a great explanation (wasn't aware of it!), but that's actually not true, it's much better to use FastCGI instead (faster and definitely a lot more reliable and robust). Looks like XAMPP might be under the same false impression. Might be a good opportunity in PHP 8 to change these not-so-healthy defaults. After all, ISAPI used to be super popular too (under Windows) until worked with Microsoft to bring FastCGI into IIS. Zeev --000000000000ec93710581dcbc56--