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Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:33:41 +0200
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To: Nicolas Grekas <nicolas.grekas+php@gmail.com>
Cc: Zeev Suraski <zeev@php.net>, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins@gmail.com>, 
	Internals <internals@lists.php.net>, Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] JIT
From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks)

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as Grekas <nicolas.grekas+php@gmail.com>:

> > [...] I think that whether or not we include it in 7.4
> > is a tactical decision (and I'm not sure myself where I stand on it),
> but I
> > do think there's a reasonable case for both directions.
> >
>
> If I may add some voice to Zeev's arguments, being able to play with JIT =
as
> early as possible would allow the community to experiment using PHP in
> areas where it doesn't fit right now. Having to wait 2 more years to
> discover that maybe it's useful to build some new libraries could be a
> waste of time at the tactical level (there are other technologies around
> that move fast also :) )
>
> Not to detract from the technical challenges of moving in this direction,
> of course.
> Just my 2cts from a "userland" guy :)
>
> Nicolas
>

Hello everyone,

I agree with this sentiment and the general idea of shipping JIT as
experimental in 7.4 and required to build with a configure flag.
master for 8.0 is going to contain much more and be more unstable and not
practical for testing what JIT can do at that point due to all other
features and improvements going into it like additional optimizations and
platform support.
It will give me, as a userland developer, a platform where I can actually
play with it early and on a stable platform. And I understand what I'm
doing at that point.

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