Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:104398 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95553 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2019 13:00:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tbjjbihbhebb.turbo-smtp.net) (199.187.174.11) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2019 13:00:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=php.net; s=turbo-smtp; x=1550742203; h=DomainKey-Signature:Received: Received:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date: Message-ID:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=sg0CrYLjzlGjUWMukLWFHA+lK Vy2GDxLU5tBeok/ftY=; b=N5825WEW0tWwdTkqOyBsrk/VEzKMw6Z5ciRH02fOX VKYWfnI0/nD7t2PUu3JfCFYvwHpJcICA6MdHEjo5sOvL2EmdJ8aORqa4YiwwuMqA pY9XUtZYbQ7xWgBYxtSs189nlr1a91xGgZ1NswSrb/0r6YWR6PHSZMjEOE72UNY2 5o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=turbo-smtp; d=php.net; h=Received:Received:X-TurboSMTP-Tracking:X-Gm-Message-State:X-Google-Smtp-Source:X-Received:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:X-Gmail-Original-Message-Id:Message-ID:Subject:To:Content-Type; b=gnQyiizfSgp6JeuIgXkFn/Imd9w6OdWVe1FKuZJV5PJPOzIsqX/9JbMmKlBYw1 MOOUp0qYA+KzEYBPrNmHiJFw9OObzZhaxcoI2lKPPcOMZJPCLJv2AZHIOMRITGjB HyhO2lycA3tQK8HgumbfSF1OciFi0kuTuliK0vOaVGPVI=; Received: (qmail 13529 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2019 09:43:23 -0000 Received: X-TurboSMTP-Tracking: 4852028281 X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAubB34rMUd8gLh4fYrH4PfTFpKlM5ePgipY1cuQLPpfjlK3QSfDN z2kgwDJFzgYtEyD6JH3r7Ave9AS3Zu3hCbqDe8k= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IYA53Uqm/Jxr1IZLRLbFIdEA9DboYwicjEg0RgljhR4+JRL6wV2QHo1PXy+5Y8Fh5Kx/EQZu3ijuVYtxa0oMuo= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:ac93:: with SMTP id m19mr2124511qvc.27.1550137403156; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 01:43:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <01178c69-e021-3865-689c-00c3a1902574@php.net> In-Reply-To: <01178c69-e021-3865-689c-00c3a1902574@php.net> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 11:43:11 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-Id: Message-ID: To: Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000044af330581d77d22" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] JIT From: zeev@php.net (Zeev Suraski) --00000000000044af330581d77d22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:20 AM Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Am 31.01.2019 um 18:08 schrieb Derick Rethans: > > I do not believe that something major like this should make it into any > > PHP 7.x release. Having it as experimental new feature in the master/PHP > > 8.0 branch makes the most sense to me. > > ACK > Does it mean that when PHP 8.0 comes out (in roughly two years' time most probably), we'd be saying this is experimental? Or that only in the meantime, for the brave folks that want to experiment PHP 8.0 ~2yrs before it's released, we'd say it's experimental but will remove that tag by the time 8.0 is released? If it's the former - I don't think we should go in this direction. If we decide that it's sensible to have it - I think we should work to ensure that it's production ready by the time PHP 8.0 is released. Offering it as something experimental (i.e. not for production) in 7.4 can help us with that goal, as it will make it easier for a wider range of people to experiment with it and provide feedback. I can't think of any technological downsides to including it as experimental in 7.4 - there's a slight "marketing" downside (it will be less of a shiny new thing in PHP 8.0), but personally I think the feedback we're likely to get is worth it. Zeev --00000000000044af330581d77d22--