Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:104304 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37336 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2019 14:09:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-wr1-f49.google.com) (209.85.221.49) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2019 14:09:14 -0000 Received: by mail-wr1-f49.google.com with SMTP id r2so3010702wrv.10 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2019 02:51:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-language:thread-index; bh=4gA47Nc89W/GMwcQP98lHom6Gw39VQoFVtjpBWvyOc4=; b=B1zdfVNqdRMuwlXEBVUdxLOowU1o8oov7pufpsO3wHGKx9xXxjQY62xAHZ6Uahqswx XsNxWZ7qS9f4UOJEIIqVezdVamZCQZME2ohlm5SoGfYJys6E5iP9H83ljW/5lyFrc4Hf xrpq4+PQo0BU9LcHDzQM678DnQRWlXoS7Sp5gUng9IrnGntS1stZ5gT6CI/Ym1w9Rk54 T2kIufCfAjKixDqZWk84u2AxxBIyG+rCNzjKS711ZNLIx9xoQ4aFJzsXBwUond3w7LfI IQ2WywATrJb/DTOzrjGmM3JVDoth3XQcimY/wtf9+I9ppl4q9/6+pjKrA+am350C8Zpu qOjA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language :thread-index; bh=4gA47Nc89W/GMwcQP98lHom6Gw39VQoFVtjpBWvyOc4=; b=I9p8vFRJ9MS01/Cp4RXm8ZMgmiaT9N4B9ncsPDilN+Tv0YvVzI0rvXnsEr3ybrqHqO IMg2VglDJaHrN8qp92kU4RB+jd8pv20d8Xpusv6wp7Tor6s5RnZQJjDwT/0l7slpIZaP TsU8u85xY5CXhxoUpUhNpO/rLTqkxr6256t3GmgMYMMyFlWqwzEZcdlji2+sxybgIT8m lNcohSfUFWiddbPrdKktd2KmOeZqcJkO59+HTD+S+N3Fvud73zJWOXGMJN2fmcVBy/iQ RHq6l0m9jivGhqhyJ0sH/2hsn91MdmmAx3qb2n62rRyLYq+3yTbD3J2YMcQZMZAlDavW PE3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuavReCoYk48mp3mkSJjme7l1pzfHsxbzyUqKsEbyAGwPmtrd+8A jAXW6vKHpsvMw4sxZHccSYSoAxcq X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IbA2SLalmbWO766wQeKZKt/r0HAhYFm+d0W7ucyl7/bWubD4p8HzsOLnAvyBWVMmyZU+c7ZZw== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:46d2:: with SMTP id g18mr16942503wrs.6.1549623065117; Fri, 08 Feb 2019 02:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from eCenter710 (bzq-84-109-129-203.red.bezeqint.net. [84.109.129.203]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j3sm2598071wmb.39.2019.02.08.02.51.03 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Feb 2019 02:51:04 -0800 (PST) To: "'PHP internals'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 12:51:02 +0200 Message-ID: <0ea201d4bf9c$30103940$9030abc0$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: he Thread-Index: AQIvs8RV5aD2XOmnw2NlFDlZ7c91LaUfz7Hw Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] VOTE abolish narrow margins From: vsuraski@gmail.com ("Zeev Suraski") > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Watkins > Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 10:51 AM > To: PHP internals > Subject: [PHP-DEV] VOTE abolish narrow margins >=20 > Morning all, >=20 > As promised, abolish narrow margins is now open for voting: >=20 > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abolish-narrow-margins Reasons I voted 'no': - This is clearly rushed. A more comprehensive RFC is in the works and = already under discussion. - Substantial changes were made last minute, without allowing reasonable = time to discuss, or for people to even acquaint themselves with the = changes. As an RFC that deals with process, that's an extremely bad = precedent. - It places strong bias for status quo even in cases where one does not = exist. - It does not tackle the voting eligibility issues we have. The general idea is good, the implementation & surrounding process are = bad. Zeev