Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:104289 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 53365 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2019 17:00:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-wm1-f44.google.com) (209.85.128.44) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2019 17:00:52 -0000 Received: by mail-wm1-f44.google.com with SMTP id d15so6154571wmb.3 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 05:42:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; bh=DtQtCrz6hQQJlRFhYqs9YX93CxkcdSlVno4Pwamntew=; b=V78Gv6Dpo/ivXy5pv+x0NajmFj8+4GuoeElFoO1Rvk6987PnTvlJf+OgJgak8E27bi qxCct4zsm+JOxCqVZgC9I2fff2bzfXewrJZuq3OR5m45X3cVVW/O8qu9dN4PUmOt5TYD CfiZcgVpLC8byP8I8eu3f64OziX+2lPtlAAJ3Lu7BCeRhrnwMK1bdXLe7nAonfXggq5v bl5QcEX5hq0ONARH+dXaAgrzQFzigatnRBNZb2woZ74manWANQXpVR/p7PDNfiB2K4zD 8qgns3XRgSoVjomyxMelI0yjBk1A1HSMBF/YXBIcdeiUFI2xT25KHHfgMtc7V7bYDUWo uOdw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; bh=DtQtCrz6hQQJlRFhYqs9YX93CxkcdSlVno4Pwamntew=; b=fut+05UXS0YcBm9Oh9NaPYg0jWOmUp0+Vcj9vk8DYkT4FsYUvKn6JG/3pEeNHBIvRQ ZjunAtyvriIKNJgedIVqmkGcN0ZS7IaR1ptKNWegkRG0/aV8kUtMtaWLu556aCq84deX pcAtkbQzzLBuqP7duCgcaDXv+6dPPlNJAF/ZQkg7aAI6Qt4YFKlCJrzq/6uiyiCUt5df yLB5Bp+fBkMmr5Zz4Jw1HBlUrS/TCCRBU80d1ZhcC1tynLisaVP5xbmcPDn6bLiUjrUg 8voF/x1BW9wt7G59+UuAmdR5Gy8+p21T/9YMQCGns4BvariO/CZE3pG1xwZwdarpBzJv OTDg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuaC+rKF8o5raa0MYm/jYkH8oMrAUC9cOTJ5f2pUh5GkK92++0xJ s3rzQ9HkzyyQtuyFHj6w294Fjfck X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IZwBhbPwNQILS4ZnBivD4lOxmkUJEi9Gy/1NbhCUx9hFANSxn/pi0G6q72M5MZMEnU6OSrp/w== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:dc02:: with SMTP id t2mr7315306wmg.78.1549546949957; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 05:42:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.6.149.191] (188.29.164.187.threembb.co.uk. [188.29.164.187]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 2sm7723274wrg.89.2019.02.07.05.42.28 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 07 Feb 2019 05:42:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 13:42:26 +0000 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <5CDFEA48-07AE-4001-8D45-3CD9CA8B8CDC@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC Abolish Narrow Margins From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 7 February 2019 08:38:54 GMT+00:00, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> It's the only definition we currently have=2E > >That's not exactly true=2E We have the definition that was actually >agreed >upon in the original Voting RFC, and while it's hardly great - it's >clearly >different from the voting base we currently have in practice=2E Perhaps we can agree that, right now, it's the only *practical* definition= we have=2E I was chatting offline about this, and it was pointed out that it's like a= country (peacefully) adopting a new constitution: if the old constitution = requires a vote to amend, those are the voting rules followed, even if they= 're completely different from the new constitution=2E=20 To extend the metaphor, the current "constitution" for PHP RFCs is a de fa= cto one based on precedent, which has evolved due to ambiguities in the pre= vious written one=2E I'm not sure anyone has the authority to throw away th= at precedent and reinterpret the older document=2E Regards, --=20 Rowan Collins [IMSoP]