Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:104276 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60405 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2019 12:45:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.kd2.org) (91.121.181.110) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2019 12:45:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bohwaz.net; s=mail; h=Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject:To; bh=wPVw7t4eMZ/uFlq1kq/wCZMAu15m+jPS916fr9OsYDU=; b=aSXW74kBCv2vh4QKzE6alTX2AhEaalB8SQ/gJ9LB6iLYJuXZSuK7tu/AJPLjICaMCui0DAAAc7tXTdiPuRCbeNI9/6AnwKm4sJvH9ND61t881MkgQfbaQTprVGsiNKCdecnPnAp8bAigY6zeiz+c0wuVoVXqo1Guv/98eqIuuyk=; Received: from narragoon by mail.kd2.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1grfxq-0006Me-Hx for internals@lists.php.net; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 10:27:22 +0100 To: internals@lists.php.net X-PHP-Originating-Script: 0:rcube.php MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 10:27:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f6770e796ac2e022113f9289b597c13@bohwaz.net> X-Sender: php@bohwaz.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.5 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project From: php@bohwaz.net (BohwaZ/PHP) Le 04/02/2019 01:14, azjezz a écrit : > In my opinion, current design looks old, outdated and bland. This > sadly may reflect "badly" on the language reputation nowadays. I find that the main PHP website is quite good actually, the design looks modern, it is quite clear and easy to use and it provides great access to documentation. I have to say the PHP documentation is usually great (and when it's not, just change it :) ), and the feature where you can just type php.net/function to get direct access to the documentation of a function/feature is great, although it doesn't search in methods, eg. http://php.net/setParam will not return anything about PDOStmt::setParam :( I also love the comments feature, people often provide great examples, tips or replacement functions for old PHP versions, this is very helpful! So I don't think that we need to redesign and start over, but iterate and make the current website better, please don't throw out what is already good :) It would be a recipe for disaster. But I have to agree that signing to the internals list wasn't an easy task as the website form wasn't working when I subscribed 2 years ago, but it might have been fixed? > # FrontEnd Framework > > We don't need that too, but we can use one ! there's some light-weight > options out there. Please only use HTML and CSS, don't use a JS framework. The website should be future-proof and not broken and hard to maintain in 6 months. Also it should be lightweight and not download a bunch of code just to display stuff. HTML and CSS are more than plenty for our needs :)