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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [VOTE] Typed properties v2
From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins)

On 6 February 2019 13:46:32 GMT+00:00, Rowan Collins <rowan=2Ecollins@gmail=
=2Ecom> wrote:
>it could be in the form of a new function like
>property_is_initialized($object, $propertyName); this would be an
>extension
>of property_exists, that handles the edge case of "declared with a type
>and
>then explicitly unset"=2E

PS: I realise that it's also possible to accidentally leave a property in =
this state with a badly written constructor=2E I am drafting a proposal to =
make this much less likely, and contend that it should not be something use=
rs should be detecting, other than catching the resulting error=2E

Regards,

--=20
Rowan Collins
[IMSoP]