Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:104127 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5868 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2019 18:33:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-40136.protonmail.ch) (185.70.40.136) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2019 18:33:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 15:14:31 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=default; t=1549293274; bh=QPmeQ2uVedxdk/OjjPB3tspti67OwlYJuKvp/2x294k=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From; b=JdRf2IG67hkxiim2D7pj1Vlj8WFhDBPBqHhjSZKuvWfbGKvUgSRQE7kG1N/XeXc7B 0Rc8fzW/8yV7iKiIGHr3jhbgVDyajkvQRi+mm8jXGAi/axFn8pq/4lgsM8eOQfo91U JlSjDXBDjuv8fyHXtUrbyvfz0F48oF//1bbPdsHg= To: Andrey Andreev Cc: Levi Morrison , "internals@lists.php.net" , "php-webmaster@lists.php.net" Reply-To: azjezz Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: 2QbNVvXqZX7F9J8FTDAv0u3ryua4T0_lfklxZ8hRMzvBUxf8m8U50Gi9tVWG9V2LePU31MFOrVnxPKYLJjZPXw==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.protonmail.ch Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project From: azjezz@protonmail.com (azjezz) =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Monday, February 4, 2019 2:32 PM, Andrey Andreev wrot= e: > Hi, > > I could nitpick on most of the proposed plan, but I really only wanted > to reply to this: > > > > - A new home page, not a "news" page, but a page simply showing the= PHP Logo, a code example maybe and > > > the download link [3]. > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > [3] https://camo.githubusercontent.com/762e5d9fcaaa4ecf645343350a9192= 9f99f452e9/68747470733a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f584477675261662e706e67 > > I just hate those useless landing pages. > > Yes, it looks neat and clean, but after the initial "OMG so pretty" > phase it just becomes annoying - noone cares about the code example > and I for one never know what "Get Started" means. PHP isn't some > consumer desktop software; nobody would just stumble upon php.net and > "get started" with it, whatever that means ... > > I'm all for a modern look and all, but let's please keep the news on > the index page. Personally, I only go to php.net to look for the news, > changelogs and to search the docs. This image suggests that I'd need > to do an extra click for each of those things and I'm sure I wouldn't > be the only one unhappy about that. > > Cheers, > Andrey. The landing page is meant for the new comers to PHP, when people search for= php, the home page is the first to appear. it make sense to show a sample = and a straightforward button to get started with using PHP ( introduction, = installation and tutorial ) You can see the mock up repository for what the "Getting Started" page woul= d look like. if you usually visit the website for documentation, you would just type php= .net/documentation in the url bar instead of php.net or php.net/blog for ch= angelogs and articles.