Newsgroups: php.internals,php.webmaster Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:104121 php.webmaster:27749 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74516 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2019 16:52:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-wr1-f67.google.com) (209.85.221.67) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2019 16:52:08 -0000 Received: by mail-wr1-f67.google.com with SMTP id z5so14344033wrt.11 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 05:33:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=devilix.net; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=0hQ+pDDv/EfSGQ/8NIuBARPk3REVmVjPsBqXI1mwX5s=; b=TJfW+jcWQWkZsaDy1MbWGK/5Jf8quovOO/w3fn1U8cAI2bKZaZinORw+gKKzHG9Z91 eRDslsoQRFNe82hMneFbYdQ1D5KF2nQGQk1Wu3Jj05Ng34lR/B7T3SqTQFk65hFRERH/ OvKLQ3Tdpb1YqgtYZOZOLN6o/C0Qr8ZZGXf/8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0hQ+pDDv/EfSGQ/8NIuBARPk3REVmVjPsBqXI1mwX5s=; b=QhMHpOFWgARkyZ9ncVwbe2PoNAWN8VDJsDRXk3vHZ9A7FkF0I2dYHc4wkTHBAHKGbT tmiMXBBCMDeHQ/2kQBRrobJCfW46n8PkRwQZpv86+AR2VXu58Kswnboto456Ui6DZsWL BwA+G9+0ukst2Jkr6oBZOw/SJt1ALhzoJobUj8fTj4I7Zj9rPDDjF2vM75GqbuSs8SJJ v7QUzEjZKdD45r6hiQrQ0qYPPkX1wn/QU02ZVgqt8yjnjHJUf1xgeDqwjO5Ek8Khsl92 atdvDVnVVUg8w3bT7FF+NRXDgeF1UlkVMd1M0BT4kQSjGDcSedbTFxINm1BgBePYvse8 hvVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuazj1+OxC2gwkXZ2qsumb3XXbHaXmrUdpKkkJnCCgNR+8k1Wri1 gFNSOUkMOMDUOqIRunqPROUY0lCTa721cYyLNAS0kw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IZ8e8mp7a/TDKczPE3vXgSmYAuRNRCuVgyrY1Q4xnp4ybDWvmzsNfRHr+skkFDbti24bAJGmvba1mVvTZwdcV4= X-Received: by 2002:adf:8484:: with SMTP id 4mr42597208wrg.249.1549287181668; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 05:33:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:32:50 +0200 Message-ID: To: Levi Morrison Cc: azjezz , "internals@lists.php.net" , php-webmaster@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project From: narf@devilix.net (Andrey Andreev) Hi, I could nitpick on most of the proposed plan, but I really only wanted to reply to this: > > * A new home page, not a "news" page, but a page simply showing the PHP Logo, a code example maybe and > > the download link [3]. > > > > [...] > > > > [3] https://camo.githubusercontent.com/762e5d9fcaaa4ecf645343350a91929f99f452e9/68747470733a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f584477675261662e706e67 I just hate those useless landing pages. Yes, it looks neat and clean, but after the initial "OMG so pretty" phase it just becomes annoying - noone cares about the code example and I for one never know what "Get Started" means. PHP isn't some consumer desktop software; nobody would just stumble upon php.net and "get started" with it, whatever that means ... I'm all for a modern look and all, but let's please keep the news on the index page. Personally, I only go to php.net to look for the news, changelogs and to search the docs. This image suggests that I'd need to do an extra click for each of those things and I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one unhappy about that. Cheers, Andrey.