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To: Zeev Suraski <zeev@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: RFC Workflow & Voting (2019 update)
From: Danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd)

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 06:19, Zeev Suraski <zeev@php.net> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 7:14 PM Dan Ackroyd <Danack@basereality.com> wrote:
>> Hi Zeev,
>>
>> Please can you very clearly state what problem you are trying to solve
>> by changing the rules about who can vote.
>
> Fair enough, I've heard that question from several others.

I've read all 1200 words of your reply, which is quite a few words.

I still can't see a clear description of what problem you're trying to
solve by changing who can vote.

The reason I'm being pedantic about this, is that when people just
discuss possible solutions to a vague sense of "this situation isn't
perfect", they will often suggest things that don't actually address
the underlying problem. Or disagree about details that don't actually
matter.

We really can't have a clear conversation about what to change without
a clear description of the problem that ought to be solved.

For example, if the fundamental problem you are trying to address is
that it's too difficult for people to get a vote, then I would support
documenting what our current system is, and allowing people to know
what they need to do to acquire a vote. If the fundamental problem the
RFC is trying to address, is to bring in a whole load of new voters,
who don't know how PHP works internally, then I wouldn't be as
supportive.

cheers
Dan
Ack