Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:104053 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 88767 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2019 08:38:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-wr1-f51.google.com) (209.85.221.51) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 2019 08:38:10 -0000 Received: by mail-wr1-f51.google.com with SMTP id a16so5517855wrv.0 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2019 21:18:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language :thread-index; bh=ZmDMzDU+IbtUqfpRWQ5Q9ttm+LGCb9TI6F1M1xhIW6Q=; b=KREcqN3YvabcQBIN3eXpEB/2DpCcZDOe0uG6uchscG/0GJvAJIoMx/Q/rxw47HcfsX OY/vhp7sMEnKUm7+BTyO+etLyf5DVw1vSXJEJ0RGQBJVLj1YrJDyXddwsmCrlBHfRZyH CXDaCJKZ1cUH3xsryhuCa6v4bx2fezgSOJRBIrwvH00+WFSE3nAkZOqiRwSjHGcLDqLI iZ9Z6TIN6qH6aX7yabwagqgOAGc6OZICIs7CiOeIm+2zvgQlRV+u+iFtOPWyEpwbkbOw f0+GDNsdxS9w04mEIhgeLWHnbAiymiMNvj0Hs8FfS64P4OVtyuWXirBykbhPYZoZpZ25 YlOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language :thread-index; bh=ZmDMzDU+IbtUqfpRWQ5Q9ttm+LGCb9TI6F1M1xhIW6Q=; b=i7nQWzlmYNEJBxBbvY0pYyaUtXdQl7SzRTo8XtIVksqkkQIQ2C/L4qN3vNtxb70qj+ WvQHq8sB9PoE5QjBfbqNqIqu+Uy4ZkJz2iRNBY+Abc8u19gaUQxMVaZTB+r1igAom1E5 iVSPJTuODrZ3mOzQZt1SjFbIe6En2HVwIZvNBzGlWpd8iUULBqMS5fjT1mdPAfctuxc/ c11ahlzrVm2wvYJaWVkLcF+lUeYGx0QErWcutjryJIEyOkgtnbGSP35eMNdrNnJIHHTE GuzkjnlOT5ZD1lvHpvTW4FoFYCvVlQozsXK9YJrPr90FkeaSRw3srNdUr61IMJXnfeKs CQXA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukdJeDDYLGm0lq9t2Hhj1IQ1wVSHR3rwAQZq7a9D4uNjTUhZzQ4B KoQmiV6qs47P86Tr7WstA6kqdtS3 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN4UfA6SHU8Z5Zz6h3zIHGHIBJkKSivT+Gg8JKE22mguZUH3AAY5VXB7H71+ohZZ/6fAweOlxA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ef0d:: with SMTP id e13mr43747485wro.29.1549171122707; Sat, 02 Feb 2019 21:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from eCenter710 (bzq-84-109-129-203.cablep.bezeqint.net. [84.109.129.203]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a132sm12022508wmh.5.2019.02.02.21.18.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Feb 2019 21:18:42 -0800 (PST) To: "'Nikita Popov'" Cc: "'PHP internals'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 07:18:37 +0200 Message-ID: <04a401d4bb7f$eb879900$c296cb00$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: he Thread-Index: AQJT4beCa4jSq1ppJH86TpPvNDxG1KTPOo+g Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Alternative voting reform: Streamlining the RFC process From: vsuraski@gmail.com ("Zeev Suraski") > -----Original Message----- > From: Nikita Popov > Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 6:24 PM > To: PHP internals > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Alternative voting reform: Streamlining the RFC = process >=20 > Hi internals, >=20 > After discussing the topic with a number of current and former = contributors, I > feel that the workflow & voting RFC currently under discussion is = moving us in > the wrong direction. I will not comment on the rather questionable = proposed > changes to voting eligibility, as these are already extensively = discussed in the > RFC thread. Personally, I find any proposal that does not deal with clearly defining = voting eligibility not only questionable, but a non-starter, that has no = parallels in any other major Open Source projects. The suggestion that the new RFC makes life more difficult, compared to = the current Voting RFC, is simply wrong. It is, in fact, very much the = same - except it's a lot more well defined in terms of 'what happens if' = - which in the years since the 2011 Voting RFC was enacted became a = de-facto wild-west. It may initially feel warm & fuzzy to have vague, fluid rules that are = remarkably open to interpretation. But it's not a good idea at all. Zeev