Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:103968 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26937 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2019 12:12:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.serversure.net) (185.153.204.204) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2019 12:12:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 3070 invoked by uid 89); 1 Feb 2019 08:52:20 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 3063, pid: 3067, t: 0.0423s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:10677 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.7?) (lester@lsces.co.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2019 08:52:20 -0000 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <03f401d4b96b$18b9dc60$4a2d9520$@php.net> <1548953369.19409.21.camel@schlueters.de> <1fcbbaac-8edc-ad7c-92aa-2d21f6d0487b@gmail.com> Message-ID: <04dbc3fb-e4e5-51e9-4562-d29bcc49ef6d@lsces.co.uk> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 08:52:20 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: RFC Workflow & Voting (2019 update) From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) On 01/02/2019 08:34, Kris Craig wrote: > The more I think about this, the less I like it. According to the page > linked to from the RFC, there are 51 current FIG members who would gain a > vote. So this RFC would strip most contributers of their voting rights > (including me), while simultaneously adding 51 new voters, all from the > same external organization (one that has been aggressively gunning for > "official" recognition since its inception). In other words, this RFC, in > its current form, would have effectively handed control over the entire PHP > project to FIG. Though I'm sure it was never the intent, TBH, this does > feel like a bit of a slap in the face to past contributors who still have > good ideas to offer now and then and should still have a voice. The question of the whether FIG is to become a core standard and everything is then based of it is perhaps the real RFC here? That move would bring FIG developers in simply because their contributions would be direct to the PHP code base? That it does now seem to be the de-facto standard may detract from a formal discussion as to if it should be THE roadmap moving forward? Much like composer is now so enshrined in new projects but is at adds with much legacy code? Bringing in blocks of 'voters' who have a different development style before deciding if that style is acceptable just seems wrong? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - https://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - https://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - https://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - https://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - https://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk