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charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <09587403EDD84E4B8640F1174CE65583@namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: zend.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: f6a85335-5b53-4e7b-e628-08d6879cdedb X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 31 Jan 2019 16:55:13.1937 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 32210298-c08b-4829-8097-6b12c025a892 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM6PR02MB4076 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC Abolish Narrow Margins From: dmitry@zend.com (Dmitry Stogov) DQoNCk9uIDEvMzEvMTkgNzoyMyBQTSwgSm9lIFdhdGtpbnMgd3JvdGU6DQo+IEhpIFplZXYsIERt aXRyeSwNCj4gDQo+IEl0IGlzIG5vdCBteSBvbmx5IGNvbmNlcm4sIEknbSBncmF0ZWZ1bCBmb3Ig dGhlIGNsYXJpZmljYXRpb24gd2hhdGV2ZXIuDQo+IA0KPiBUaGVzZSBhcmUgeW91ciBhY3R1YWwg d29yZHMgZnJvbSB0aGUgUkZDOg0KPiANCj4gID4gVGhpcyB3b3JrcywgYnV0IHRoaXMgZnVuY3Rp b25hbGl0eSBpcyBub3Qgc3VwcG9ydGVkIG9uIGFsbCBsaWJmZmkgDQo+IHBsYXRmb3JtcywgaXQg aXMgbm90IGVmZmljaWVudCBhbmQgbGVha3MgcmVzb3VyY2VzIGJ5IHRoZSBlbmQgb2YgDQo+IHJl cXVlc3QuIEl0J3MgcmVjb21tZW5kZWQgdG8gbWluaW1pemUgdGhlIHVzYWdlIG9mIFBIUCBjYWxs YmFja3MuDQoNCkRvIHlvdSB1bmRlcnN0YW5kIHdoYXQgaXMgUEhQIGNhbGxiYWNrIGluIGNvbnRl eHQgb2YgRkZJPw0KSW4gdGhlIGZvbGxvd2luZyBleGFtcGxlLCBpdCdzIHVzZWQgdG8gb3ZlcnJp ZGUgemVuZF93cml0ZSBieSBQSFAgDQpmdW5jdGlvbiwgYnV0IEZGSSBjYW4ndCBrbm93IHdoZW4g dGhpcyBjYWxsYmFjayBpcyBub3QgdXNlZCBieSBDIA0KYW55bW9yZSwgYW5kIGtlZXBzIGl0IHVu dGlsIHRoZSBlbmQgb2YgcmVxdWVzdC4NCg0KPD9waHANCiR6ZW5kID0gRkZJOjpjZGVmKCINCgl0 eXBlZGVmIGludCAoKnplbmRfd3JpdGVfZnVuY190KShjb25zdCBjaGFyICpzdHIsIHNpemVfdCBz dHJfbGVuZ3RoKTsNCglleHRlcm4gemVuZF93cml0ZV9mdW5jX3QgemVuZF93cml0ZTsNCiIpOw0K DQokb3JpZ196ZW5kX3dyaXRlID0gY2xvbmUgJHplbmQtPnplbmRfd3JpdGU7DQokemVuZC0+emVu ZF93cml0ZSA9IGZ1bmN0aW9uKCRzdHIsICRsZW4pIHsNCglnbG9iYWwgJG9yaWdfemVuZF93cml0 ZTsNCgkkb3JpZ196ZW5kX3dyaXRlKCJ7XG5cdCIsIDMpOw0KCSRyZXQgPSAkb3JpZ196ZW5kX3dy aXRlKCRzdHIsICRsZW4pOw0KCSRvcmlnX3plbmRfd3JpdGUoIn1cbiIsIDIpOw0KCXJldHVybiAk cmV0Ow0KfTsNCmVjaG8gIkhlbGxvIFdvcmxkIVxuIjsNCiR6ZW5kLT56ZW5kX3dyaXRlID0gJG9y aWdfemVuZF93cml0ZTsNCj8+DQoNCj4gVG8gbWUsIGEgZm9yZWlnbiBmdW5jdGlvbiBpbnRlcmZh Y2Ugd2hlcmUgb25lIHNpZGUgb2YgdGhlIGludGVyZmFjZSANCj4gc291bmRzIGJyb2tlbiBhbmQg aW5lZmZpY2llbnQsIGFjY29yZGluZyB0byB0aGUgYXV0aG9yLCBpcyBzY2FyeS4gSSd2ZSANCj4g bmV2ZXIgd29ya2VkIHdpdGggbGliZmZpLCBzbyBkb24ndCBrbm93IGlmIHRoYXQncyBub3JtYWwg Li4uIGJ1dCBJIHRoaW5rIA0KPiB5b3UgY2FuIHVuZGVyc3RhbmQgbXkgdGhvdWdodHMgaGVyZS4N Cg0KVGhlcmUgaXMgdGhlIHNhbWUgaXNzdWUgd2l0aCBGRkkgZm9yIEx1YUpJVC4NCkknbSBub3Qg c3VyZSBpZiBQeXRob24gQ0ZGSSBzdXBwb3J0cyBjYWxsYmFja3MuDQoNCj4gQXNpZGUgZnJvbSB3 aGF0ZXZlciB0ZWNobmljYWwgaXNzdWVzIEkgbWF5IGhhdmUgbWlzaW50ZXJwcmV0ZWQgb3IgDQo+ IG1pc2lkZW50aWZpZWQsIHRoZXNlIGFyZSBub3QgbXkgbWFpbiBvYmplY3Rpb25zIHRvIGl0IGJl aW5nIG1lcmdlZC4NCg0KSSBnb3QgaXQuDQoNClRoYW5rcy4gRG1pdHJ5Lg0KDQo+IA0KPiBDaGVl cnMNCj4gSm9lDQo+IA0KPiBPbiBUaHUsIDMxIEphbiAyMDE5IGF0IDE3OjIwLCBaZWV2IFN1cmFz a2kgPHplZXZAcGhwLm5ldCANCj4gPG1haWx0bzp6ZWV2QHBocC5uZXQ+PiB3cm90ZToNCj4gDQo+ IA0KPiANCj4gICAgIE9uIFRodSwgSmFuIDMxLCAyMDE5IGF0IDY6MDkgUE0gRG1pdHJ5IFN0b2dv diA8ZG1pdHJ5QHplbmQuY29tDQo+ICAgICA8bWFpbHRvOmRtaXRyeUB6ZW5kLmNvbT4+IHdyb3Rl Og0KPiANCj4gICAgICAgICBUaGUgZmFjdCB0aGF0IEZGSSBtYXkgbGVhaywgaXMgYmVjYXVzZSBp dCB1c2VzICJ1bm1hbmFnZWQNCj4gICAgICAgICBtZW1vcnkiIChsaWtlDQo+ICAgICAgICAgaW4g cmVhbCBDKS4gUEhQIHJlZmVyZW5jZSBjb3VudGluZyBhbmQgR0MganVzdCBjYW4ndCBoYW5kbGUg YWxsIHRoZQ0KPiAgICAgICAgIGNhc2VzLiBJdCdzIGltcG9zc2libGUgdG8gYXV0b21hdGljYWxs eSBrbm93IHdoYXQgdG8gZG8gd2l0aCBDDQo+ICAgICAgICAgcG9pbnRlciwNCj4gICAgICAgICB3 aGVuIHdlIGdldCBpdCBmcm9tIGZ1bmN0aW9uIG9yIGFub3RoZXIgc3RydWN0dXJlLiBJbiB0aGlz IGNhc2UNCj4gICAgICAgICBwcm9ncmFtbWVyIGhhdmUgdG8gY2FyZSBhYm91dCBmcmVlaW5nIHRo ZSBwb2ludGVyIHRoZW1zZWx2ZXMNCj4gICAgICAgICAobGlrZSBpbiBDKS4NCj4gDQo+ICAgICBU aGlzIG9idmlvdXNseSBkb2Vzbid0IGNvdW50IGFzICdsZWFrcycuwqAgSWYgaXQgZGlkLCB3ZSBj b3VsZCBzYXkNCj4gICAgIHRoYXQgdGhlIFplbmQgRXh0ZW5zaW9uIEFQSSBsZWFrcywgYXMgaXQn cyBjb21wbGV0ZWx5IHVwIHRvIHRoZQ0KPiAgICAgZGV2ZWxvcGVyIHRvIGhhbmRsZSBtZW1vcnkg bWFuYWdlbWVudC4NCj4gDQo+ICAgICBKb2UgLSBpZiB0aGF0J3MgeW91ciBjb25jZXJuLCBJIHRo aW5rIGl0J3MgZmFpciB0byBzYXkgaXQncw0KPiAgICAgaW52YWxpZMKgYW5kIHlvdSBoYXZlIG5v dGhpbmcgdG8gd29ycnkgYWJvdXQuDQo+IA0KPiAgICAgWmVldg0KPiANCg==