Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:103936 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46676 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2019 20:09:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.experimentalworks.net) (84.19.169.162) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2019 20:09:40 -0000 Received: from kuechenschabe.fritz.box (ppp-188-174-120-245.dynamic.mnet-online.de [188.174.120.245]) by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DCD155238B; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 17:49:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1548953369.19409.21.camel@schlueters.de> To: Zeev Suraski , internals@lists.php.net Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 17:49:29 +0100 In-Reply-To: <03f401d4b96b$18b9dc60$4a2d9520$@php.net> References: <03f401d4b96b$18b9dc60$4a2d9520$@php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: RFC Workflow & Voting (2019 update) From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Do, 2019-01-31 at 15:44 +0200, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Without further ado, an RFC that’s attempting to comprehensively > solve many of the issues that have plagued our RFC process since it > was hastily introduced in 2011: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting2019 > Being mostly outside I wonder a bit whether it would make sense that inactive developers at some point lose their voting right. Reasoning: If somebody is out of the project for 10 years they probably lost track on how the language and needs evolved and just voting since an old friend needed a deciding vote is bad.  For groups like FIG I am uncertain. I think it is a good thing if we push more things out of PHP itself into the userspace (JIT, FFI, ... allow more and more stuff to be done in userspace) and thus coordinating with userspace developers and setting standards and interoperability there is good. However it are the maintainers who (often voluntarily) have to maintain these things and overruling actual maintainers is bad as they lose interest. johannes