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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 16:07:10 +0200
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To: Kris Craig <kris.craig@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: RFC Workflow & Voting (2019 update)
From: zeev@php.net (Zeev Suraski)

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On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:53 PM Kris Craig <kris.craig@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think you may be over-reaching a bit on the eligible voters part.  Keep
> in mind that all those who would be affected would still be able to vote on
> this RFC.  I think it's too restrictive on that part.
>

I realized that this part of the RFC is likely to be challenging.  I'm open
to additional ideas (or tweaking of existing ones) - but at the same time,
I think the current situation is not sustainable - nor can I think about
any other (large) Open Source project that employs anything similar.
Today, any person can become a voter, with identical rights to long time,
committed contributors - virtually overnight, with very little (or
virtually no) commitment on their part.  Open Source project governance
tends to be a meritocracy - and even this proposal sets a fairly low bar to
having the very same voting rights as Rasmus, me, Nikita or Dmitry.  Again,
I'm very open to ideas on how to improve on it, it's not an easy task to
tackle.

For the record, something like this *was* in fact the thinking behind the
language in https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting - but much like other parts of
the RFC, it was poorly written, and in this case - even more poorly
implemented.

Also, why does FIG get special treatment?


The list can (and probably should) be amended;  The goal here is to bring
in additional, non-source-contributors to the mix that are at the same time
experienced PHP developers that can represent a large number of
developers.  PHP-FIG seemed to be a good fit for that bill, but there are
probably others that should be added as well.

Zeev

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